I mean, that does check out with the latest info we have. The Airbus draw up is for flying through Summer 2022, so it's only natural that the Airbus reductions start again effective for Fall 2022. And most likely, Airbus reductions in SFO concurrently with the new Boeing SFO base.

Wait, are we predicting 73 SFO bases or did I miss an announcement?


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You must have missed the JL email from a couple months ago. As far as I know, that info hasn’t changed.

If the last 5 years of working for this company should have taught you is that no plan is solid and everything is reactionary. Other airlines are staging for a period of substantial growth post-COVID. We are soon to be in a capacity war. Parking airplanes, even French ones, might seem like a bad idea.

So for OTZ to come back with firm numbers on reductions is laughable. No one knows anything, especially him.

Nature of the airline industry. Plans are solid until the next downturn/black swan event.

I’m not the quickest study but I’ve learned to not believe anything JL or an other management pilot says. In fact I tend to think it’s the opposite until the issue has resolved itself into official policy.

This has helped me a lot with recent events around threats over sick calls and a lot of other issues that never came to pass.


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yes you missed it. JL and SD and SFO base Chief KP have all confirmed SFO remains a base. Transitioning to 737 next year. SD said it will be same size as current base and possibly a bit larger. Good news for us Bay sisters and brothers.

Is there plans to transition off the Airbus? Fully or partially? When?

So whats the deal does the company pay for the hotels for new hire training now?

Yes, company does pay for hotels through all of training.

It might be different now and somebody can correct me if I’m wrong, but when I went through Airbus training the company did not pay for my hotels for OE out of SFO. When I transitioned to 737, my hotel was paid for through OE in SEA.