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Flaps1check 01-22-2022 10:30 AM
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3357905)
Because you don’t understand how it works… Effective date🙄. They can still train and still fly as a CA all summer and then their effective reduction would be September 1, which they could also extend 60 days longer if they needed them. I am not going to argue it’s the best way, but the bus departure is going to produce some weird outcomes over the next 18mos. This summer is a bandaid. We will have 10 Airbus on property by late fall of 2023.
Why reduce the Airbus when we are purchasing an Airbus operator?

withdispointmnt 01-22-2022 10:34 AM
Originally Posted by Flaps1check (Post 3357967)
Why reduce the Airbus when we are purchasing an Airbus operator?
Because our Airbus’s are old besides the NEO’s.

ForeverJunior 01-22-2022 11:23 AM
Originally Posted by withdispointmnt (Post 3357969)
Because our Airbus’s are old besides the NEO’s.
Excellent username. Really, very well done. 🍻

flyprdu 01-22-2022 11:47 AM
Originally Posted by withdispointmnt (Post 3357969)
Because our Airbus’s are old besides the NEO’s.
Not sure if you are being sarcastic.

flyprdu 01-22-2022 11:51 AM
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3357905)
Because you don’t understand how it works… Effective date🙄. They can still train and still fly as a CA all summer and then their effective reduction would be September 1, which they could also extend 60 days longer if they needed them. I am not going to argue it’s the best way, but the bus departure is going to produce some weird outcomes over the next 18mos. This summer is a bandaid. We will have 10 Airbus on property by late fall of 2023.
You're just a walking contradiction. You say they're being efficient, but these guys won't have enough time in the left seat to even consolidate before being displaced.

What a waste. What a tease.
I'd also say there's a greater chance that the company cancels their Airbus training outright in the name of efficiency.

The company has no idea what it's doing and is jerking us around in the process.

OTZeagle1 01-22-2022 12:02 PM
Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 3358023)
You're just a walking contradiction. You say they're being efficient, but these guys won't have enough time in the left seat to even consolidate before being displaced.

What a waste. What a tease.
I'd also say there's a greater chance that the company cancels their Airbus training outright in the name of efficiency.

The company has no idea what it's doing and is jerking us around in the process.
“chaos, I mean absolute chaos”… If they fly all summer and the first 60 of the fall? I don’t know. Oh, I never said they were being efficient. I think the larger April or May bid is the most likely because it fits the best with Nov or Dec effective. The next 18 mos will be pretty crazy. Your points a valid one, I guess we will see how it works out. There is definitely going to be some waste, part of that is our contract, foiling what management would do without those restrictions. Those restrictions create and protect a lot of jobs though.

ShyGuy 01-22-2022 12:26 PM
Agreed. Having two fleet types really helped in the decision to furlough vs no furlough. Two fleets makes it complicated. A single fleet would have been an easy downgrade and furlough. Recalls would have been quick too. But forcing people from Bus to Boeing and vice versa complicated things. Good for us.

withdispointmnt 01-22-2022 02:40 PM
Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 3358018)
Not sure if you are being sarcastic.
Kinda, aren’t some of the lease rates pretty horrible from what we had at VX?

withdispointmnt 01-22-2022 03:13 PM
Originally Posted by foreverjunior (Post 3358004)
excellent username. Really, very well done. 🍻
🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻

MinRest 01-22-2022 03:34 PM
Originally Posted by withdispointmnt (Post 3357969)
Because our Airbus’s are old besides the NEO’s.
Actually as a fleet they aren't that old. Go talk to UAL and see what an old 320 looks like.


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