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NewGuy01 01-03-2022 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by cmrflyer (Post 3346565)
Thise numbers look so low, until you realize that idiots here walk around and pretend it’s a legacy airline. How many people at real legacy’s are actually leaving?
compare those numbers.
this place is pathetic.


I don’t think anyone is pretending this is a legacy after the last week.


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ForeverJunior 01-03-2022 08:52 PM

The lack of leadership at the executive level makes it painfully obvious that this airline is nowhere near a legacy. BM & JL have been in hiding. Haven't heard a peep from either one. We got one worthless E-Mail from CVM and another one from SD about a week ago - one day after the MEC sent out a comm expressing disappointment in management's mishandling the whole snow event meltdown. Angle Lake is reactive. They've always been reactive and one shouldn't expect them to change their ways. They are content with their "business plan" and they are way too stubborn to change for the better.

deraa 01-04-2022 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by NotTellin (Post 3346539)
Don’t worry, I imagine you will be soon enough.

this ^

filler

rickair7777 01-04-2022 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by cmrflyer (Post 3346565)
Thise numbers look so low, until you realize that idiots here walk around and pretend it’s a legacy airline. How many people at real legacy’s are actually leaving?
compare those numbers.
this place is pathetic.

It is a legacy, the definition is clear and simple and includes HAL and AS... grandfathered basically. All of the legacies also have regional feed. I think none of the other majors have regional feed.

Unlike the others, AS is also a niche LCC, and not a global player.

Maybe the legacy title makes some folks feel good, but it doesn't offer any extra pay or benefits :rolleyes:

Hot Dog 01-04-2022 08:38 AM

It’s a west coast Sun Country

flyprdu 01-04-2022 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3346544)
Not even talking about credit cards….Your last paragraph kinda says it all though doesn’t it…

You still haven't said anything. You just mope about the inevitability of how powerless the pilots are here, which is a key ingredient in the self-fulfilling prophecy of why the pilot QOL is so substandard.

It's embarrassing.

MinRest 01-04-2022 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Hot Dog (Post 3346753)
It’s a west coast Sun Country

No, Sun Country has a better contract.

DaGreenBanana 01-04-2022 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by MinRest (Post 3346821)
No, Sun Country has a better contract.

…until they buy you

9mikemike 01-04-2022 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 3346764)
You still haven't said anything. You just mope about the inevitability of how powerless the pilots are here, which is a key ingredient in the self-fulfilling prophecy of why the pilot QOL is so substandard.

It's embarrassing.

Powerless has never been uttered by me…We certainly do have all the power… We certainly choose to never use it. At least you and I do. I have spent 23 years doing everything that ALPA is afraid to ask us to do. I assume that you have too…Judging by our success you and I must be the only two that do. If the other 2800 would start doing those things we would wield a large stick at the “table”. What will never get us that “stick” is pilot shortages, attrition, legacy hiring etc…For an “airline” like Alaska, those are phantom conditions that don't exist. Or at least not in the last 23 years.

Wingnutt 01-07-2022 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Hot Dog (Post 3346753)
It’s a west coast Sun Country

This...exactely


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