Agreed with EJ. This job is just a job, in that it should not be your only source of income. I want to have income streams outside and separate from flying. So far the steady stream I have is from a rental, which coincidentally is my NJ home once the NYC base closed. Ideally, I'd like to have investment streams that can bring in at least $5-7k per month. Literally to do nothing and just watch diversified income roll in.

Soooooo sincere question. A new hire hired at Alaska today, could they start a real estate income stream equaling yours?


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What a joke, this pilot group will never change. I’m so glad I’m out in a few days

Best to you Hot Dog! If anything it will help or hurt my FOMO. But you’re a great benchmark as to my current predicament. Please keep us up to speed on life on the other side


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Since you said it is a sincere question then I will assume you are serious and want an answer, and the answer is that of course they can. They couldn't do it on first year pay obviously, but that holds true for any airline. While we are paid decent, and you can get a real estate income stream going while employed at Alaska, you could probably build that real estate portfolio twice as fast at any other major airline.

You got it NewGuy01, friends don’t let friends fly at Alaska without telling em to leave this Stockholm syndrome of a regional. It will finally be nice to make some real money flying the same jet with blue yellow and red paint.

Well I guess that’s the million dollar question now isn’t it. And, yeah, I’ve gotta side gig that’s doing pretty good as well. But while you’re puttin the onus on everyone here tryin to make fair points, come up with a plan, work within the shizzle sandwich and try and be condescending to anyone who’s ready to make whatever sacrifices they CAN make, you’re gonna need to explain how literally every other airline using the same POS RLA, somehow managed to get it done better than Alaska.

Seems from all the legacies I’ve talked with about it, there’s a myriad of reasons. I’m not one to point the finger and blame the past. But, good gravy dude, you got line pilots all the way up to the top of the Union pointing out deficiencies, trying to stay unified, work the system, be tactical, be measured, be transparent, remedy the pitfalls that plagued the past, and your response to that is to tell em they’re all just a bunch of whiners.

Hell we can get THAT message from BM himself! Standing with a strike if it comes to that?! You’re most likely correct. Very little chance we get to that. So your “I’ll vote no, no matter what.” And your “I’ll honor a strike”…. TODAY…. Right now? Those are useless. What are you doing TODAY to facilitate change…. Other than telling everyone pointing out the obvious that they are a bunch of whiners who don’t know how futile the RLA is and the only way to have a decent life at Alaska is having a second career in some sort of financial investment. What are YOU doing?

Cya at the picket on April 1? Or is that a stupid idea too?

I cannot believe people are taking the bait and seriously engaging in a discussion about income outside of what people make at Alaska. I could not give two rat's behinds what anyone does outside of work, and neither should anyone else. All this is is a way for people who clearly don't rely on their income from Alaska (bully for them) to distract from the only thing anyone on this forum should be concerned with: the state of things AT ALASKA. Period. Because some people, in fact, do have to work for money and this place nets people far less than every other airline that flies the same equipment.

Preach brother!

From my new hire class in late 2019 there are only two remaining from the six we started with.