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rickair7777 03-14-2022 09:01 AM
Originally Posted by conquestdz (Post 3388569)
We had a brief stint of ADTG at my previous employer. There were ways to get lots of soft time with it. If a trip had a victory lap at the beginning or end like a GEG or PDX turn or similar you could usually get someone to pick it up because it would pay a min day for 2 hours of flying and you didn't mind dropping it because if your other leg to or from the overnight was something short you were usually not loosing much by giving it up. On the flip side, there were certain pairings where the company could win too.
The company will want pairings split by pilots to pay block, without any guarantees. At the very least they won't want to pay daily guarantee to both pilots.

conquestdz 03-14-2022 09:22 AM
Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3388579)
The company will want pairings split by pilots to pay block, without any guarantees. At the very least they won't want to pay daily guarantee to both pilots.
Obviously that's what they will want. We will want something different.

Bluedriver 03-14-2022 09:31 AM
If those pay rates are ALPA's ask, doesn't seem high enough as a starting point.

ELAC321 03-14-2022 02:29 PM
Pros and cons to hard cred VS higher adg. Obviously if they are the same value hard cred min is better. I'd take the higher adg over a lower hard number. More days off for pilot group as a whole.

Hard credit means company would no longer build pairings with short days to begin or end a trip. Commuters definitely would be bitten as commutablity would tank from "optimizing".

Whichever solution is chosen will completely change pairing construction.

FL410 03-14-2022 03:43 PM
Dang it. I should have bid reserve in SEA for April. Opportunity missed.

miker1 03-14-2022 04:53 PM
Originally Posted by FL410 (Post 3388766)
Dang it. I should have bid reserve in SEA for April. Opportunity missed.
What opportunity did you miss?

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PNWFlyer 03-16-2022 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by miker1 (Post 3388805)
What opportunity did you miss?

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on the FO side in Seattle you missed the opportunity to be 1 of only 6 other FOs on reserve for April.

looks like there were 57 open flying lines.

9mikemike 03-16-2022 07:00 PM
459 lines of flying in SEA(403 regular+56 open flying) covered by 6 total reserves. Secret Sauce

Jetlikespeed 03-16-2022 07:22 PM
Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3389960)
459 lines of flying in SEA(403 regular+56 open flying) covered by 6 total reserves. Secret Sauce
I think for once I can say I’m happy to be on the Airbus
RIP to those reserves

ELAC321 03-16-2022 07:50 PM
Originally Posted by Jetlikespeed (Post 3389969)
I think for once I can say I’m happy to be on the Airbus
RIP to those reserves
They'll probably end up just getting proffered lines since we have roughly 1 fo leaving every day.


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