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Flyboy8784 04-20-2022 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by MinRest (Post 3409242)
Which is ironic, seeing as AS is the airline that put out a company wide email banning us from hugging each other in the terminal as it was a holdover from the VX days.

Totally forgot about that.....and how SW had to do a demonstration on a webcast on how to say hello to fellow employee....another pompous clown who steals marketing ideas from starbucks :rolleyes:

SkyKing466 04-20-2022 10:13 AM

Her and AS are the cringiest of the whole Angler clown show

TheDuster 04-20-2022 10:20 AM

I’m just happy you guys stopped feeding WNEast… that kid has some issues.

Flyboy8784 04-20-2022 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by TheDuster (Post 3409323)
I’m just happy you guys stopped feeding WNEast… that kid has some issues.

I don't pay any mind. The grammatical errors almost sound like he trolls social media DM'S for "Bobs and Vageen"

ShyGuy 04-20-2022 11:56 AM

The only reason these merger rumors started is because Frontier announced a merger with Spirit, then jetBlue announced their interest in Spirit, and Alaska getting merged this year was a guaranteed outcome, because....?

WHACKMASTER 04-20-2022 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3409365)
The only reason these merger rumors started is because Frontier announced a merger with Spirit, then jetBlue announced their interest in Spirit, and Alaska getting merged this year was a guaranteed outcome, because....?

…..OTZ said so.

All Bizniz 04-20-2022 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3409365)
The only reason these merger rumors started is because Frontier announced a merger with Spirit, then jetBlue announced their interest in Spirit, and Alaska getting merged this year was a guaranteed outcome, because....?

... because smoke is pouring out of the house from more than a few windows...

IFlyEm 04-20-2022 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3409365)
The only reason these merger rumors started is because Frontier announced a merger with Spirit, then jetBlue announced their interest in Spirit, and Alaska getting merged this year was a guaranteed outcome, because....?

There's a lot more to the rumors then piggybacking on Frontier, Spirit, and JetBlue.
Like:
  • The the SEC filling giving the execs more protection in the event of a buyout.
  • Brad leaving the board
  • Patricia M. Bedient appointment to the board
  • Discontinuing mediation with ALPA
  • Ben's total disappearance from public eye
Are any of these a smoking gun? No. But there's enough smoke here to draw a pretty solid conclusion that we're either looking at someone, someone is looking at us, or a combination of the two.

Caveman 04-20-2022 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3409065)
Come on, Zap. You’re smarter and have far too much industry experience to believe this. First of all, upgrade is based on your relative seniority and not the number of pilots above you. It’s a percentage.

Second, you know darn well how senior SWA FOs (like yourself) faired during the last “marriage”, but I’ll just refresh the memories of those reading:

SWA was a stagnant airline with zero orders on the books in 2010. They bought another airline roughly a third of their size that had new B737s inbound.

SWAPA (with the help of SWA) was able to “capture” 🙄 the captain seats of transitioning pilots and thus many senior SWA FOs got an upgrade much sooner as their upgrade at the time was based on retirements and not fleet growth as again, SWA had no orders on the books.

I’m not advocating that Alaska pilots get treated the same way as the last red-headed stepchildren but to suggest that past mergers (Morris Air being another great example…..staple with pay protection) haven’t been a boost to SWA pilots’ relative seniority and “capture” of captain’s seats would be inaccurate.

In the most recent example, it was all of the “acquired” captain’s seats with an average gain of 8% relative seniority for SWAPA pilots and average loss of 22% for the scum that were acquired.

Why was AirTran for sale

MinRest 04-20-2022 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by IFlyEm (Post 3409390)
There's a lot more to the rumors then piggybacking on Frontier, Spirit, and JetBlue.
Like:
  • The the SEC filling giving the execs more protection in the event of a buyout.
  • Brad leaving the board
  • Patricia M. Bedient appointment to the board
  • Discontinuing mediation with ALPA
  • Ben's total disappearance from public eye
Are any of these a smoking gun? No. But there's enough smoke here to draw a pretty solid conclusion that we're either looking at someone, someone is looking at us, or a combination of the two.

Let's not forget all the items going on in daily operations causing a meltdown operationally, but making the books as profitable as possible. Those new iPads we were told about months ago that are years overdue are nowhere to be seen except for new hires. We were grossly understaffed before, and have let it get worse, and the company won't lift a finger to properly fund and manage any of our departments. Resources are nowhere to be found, and money attention and financial influx is needed in so many areas that are being willfully ignored. This is not on purpose. We can pretend that management is utterly inept and useless, we can absolutely pretend that. However that is a false and grave misstep in the reality.


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