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Quote: Honestly Shy it just sounds like your upset you chose to ride this place out and had to move your family out West to achieve any meaningful QOL and because of it you’ve convinced yourself that it was the right thing to do and that this contract proves it hence nothing negative about it.
In general I believe if your family situation allows for it - moving is the right thing to do. Not everyone can. But it certainly helps for QOL. Sure, I'll admit it's the golden handcuffs (I don't have ego, it's the truth). If I had less seniority I'd leave for the big 3. But zero desire to give up 12th yr pay and start at yr 1 at the bottom of a 15k list. Giving up too much at this point IMO.

Those points aside, my views on the contract don't change.
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Quote: Most of the QOL improvements can't be implemented until the schedules are on PBS. So you're only seeing about 30% of them now. It won't be perfect, but definitely better than the crap schedules we've been working under. More work to do in the next round of negotiations.
What 30% am I seeing now? Holiday pay? I got 20 min of delay pay because I elected to extend so I could get home and not have to deadhead. There was some double premium. Those are all pay matters. Not really understanding the QOL thing here. What exactly is it?
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Reality is a lot of the stuff (especially the new reserve rule system) aren't implemented until PBS is in place. Things like not having to look at individual RAP coverage, just the overall day reserves and if it's greater than min required for the whole day, the trade/drop/swap goes through. Today, I can't get rid of an evening trip because the 1030am RAP that covers it has 3 required, 3 available. But overall reserve day is 12 required but 25 available! That is ridiculous and will be fixed once the new reserve rules are implemented (with PBS I assume).

So a lot of the contractual improvements aren't visible yet.


On a side note, I will point out that all those people who said DHs having full scheduling credit would mean less flying to get to 75 hrs and create more lines because now lines get more value added for a deadhead instead of 50% sked credit. I guess the Feb mistake and re-run proved that wrong. Lines were loaded with 50% DH sked credit instead of 100%. They re-ran lines and created the same number of lines and in one seat in SEA, lines actually decreased by 1. Even the union communication sounded surprised by this outcome. Guess DH at 100% scheduling credit was hyped up far more than what it turned out to be.
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Quote: Angle Lake will never build pairings and lines to improve the QOL for pilots unless it benefits them and saves them money. If you want better QOL you need to live in base and drive to work. This applies to any airline and especially here at Alaska. PBS won't fix our nightmare either. Remember, crap in crap out. Puzzle palace won't do the right thing unless it benefits them, ever. Here's an example and there are many. Our commuter hotel policy is an MOU and not part of section 25. What's that tell you? Enjoy it while you have it.
What going to cause the commuter hotel policy to go away is the $26K of rooms that pilots have booked and no-showed on since implementation of the policy. The company is happy to have it when people legitimately need and use it, not to just throw away money at wasted rooms for no-shows…

It’s not that hard to just call the front desk and cancel last minute if something comes up like a missed commute or flight cancellation, they’ve always been more than happy to cancel & refund in my experience…
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Quote: What going to cause the commuter hotel policy to go away is the $26K of rooms that pilots have booked and no-showed on since implementation of the policy. The company is happy to have it when people legitimately need and use it, not to just throw away money at wasted rooms for no-shows…

It’s not that hard to just call the front desk and cancel last minute if something comes up like a missed commute or flight cancellation, they’ve always been more than happy to cancel & refund in my experience…
Where did you get that number?
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Quote: Where did you get that number?

Thats the other half of the retro owed to each pilot.
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Quote: Where did you get that number?
Ask around, it’s not a secret…
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Quote: What going to cause the commuter hotel policy to go away is the $26K of rooms that pilots have booked and no-showed on since implementation of the policy. The company is happy to have it when people legitimately need and use it, not to just throw away money at wasted rooms for no-shows…

It’s not that hard to just call the front desk and cancel last minute if something comes up like a missed commute or flight cancellation, they’ve always been more than happy to cancel & refund in my experience…
What would you, a line pilot with an entire 6mo's of airline experience, know about what this company's management "is happy" spending money on?

They implemented the hotel policy as a way to incentivize pilots to cover flying on days off because their staffing is perpetually underwater and they got desperate enough to do something that resembles helping pilots.

If they were "happy" helping pilots that "legitimately need it," maybe they would have offered to make the policy permanent by putting it in the CBA? 🤔

But keep licking their boots, they really do care about you!
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Quote: What going to cause the commuter hotel policy to go away is the $26K of rooms that pilots have booked and no-showed on since implementation of the policy. The company is happy to have it when people legitimately need and use it, not to just throw away money at wasted rooms for no-shows
Rumor I’ve heard is that it will eventually turn into a “x amount” of hotel rooms provided per month. Probably along the lines of 4 or 5.

Turns the cost of the program from variable to fixed and will surely save money.

Just a rumor though 🤷‍♂️
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Quote: Ask around, it’s not a secret…
Ask who? An insider like you? 😂
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