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ShyGuy 08-03-2023 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3677668)
Some things to differentiate Alaska from all other major airlines:

1) Only major airline to have all pilot bases in one time zone and within 50( give or take) miles from the ocean.
2) Only single fleet major airline with regional outsourcing.
3) Only single fleet major airline to outsource 35-50% of all departures to regional subcontractors.
4) Only major passenger airline to fly dedicated, converted cargo aircraft.

Yes, those are unique. I just don't think it's enough over the big 3, IF a pilot has a choice - and they do in this current market.

clearandcold 08-03-2023 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3677668)
Some things to differentiate Alaska from all other major airlines:

1) Only major airline to have all pilot bases in one time zone and within 50( give or take) miles from the ocean.
2) Only single fleet major airline with regional outsourcing.
3) Only single fleet major airline to outsource 35-50% of all departures to regional subcontractors.
4) Only major passenger airline to fly dedicated, converted cargo aircraft.

What time zone is ANC in?

ShyGuy 08-03-2023 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by clearandcold (Post 3677679)
What time zone is ANC in?

the Twilight Zone ;)

ReluctantEskimo 08-03-2023 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3677676)
I don't see it.

Of course you don't. If a quality doesn't check the box for you, then it doesn't check the box for anyone. That's what makes your predictions so laughable.


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3677676)
Sorry, the only conclusion I can draw is you are chalking up a big game about choosing AS over the big 3 in the vain hope of getting Delta money on Sept 1.

And that's a shame. Alaska has some unique features and if you love the west coast, this is the place to be. Now, we just need that pay raise to make it more affordable.

ShyGuy 08-03-2023 09:37 PM

Not a quality. Those were just lame reasons for choosing an airline in this current market.


As for the second part, say I am a mid 20s guy and I love the west coast. Why shouldn’t I take DL for SEA and LAX, or UA for SFO and LAX? Culture, 737, routes doesn’t cut it.


I can’t believe that you’d either ignore, or worse, disregard one of the more important career aspects: seniority and upward movement from retirements. 3400 pilots today and how many retire the next 10 years? 600-700ish? The big 3 retire far more, proportionately speaking and resulting in a better relative position. DAL and soon UAL with the new contract will allow basically direct entry CAs. How’s that compare to a 2018 junior CA? Alaska has the most senior upgrade at the major airlines, except Southwest.

You’re disregarding real, measurable, quantifiable variables for choosing an airline over touchy feely things like culture and perceived fleet awesomeness.


Money alone isn’t going to solve this.

ReluctantEskimo 08-03-2023 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3677690)
You’re disregarding real, measurable, quantifiable variables for choosing an airline over touchy feelings like culture and perceived fleet awesomeness.

Like I said, not everyone thinks like you. I'm not surprised you can't get that through your head.


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3677690)
Money alone isn’t going to solve this.

But it's a great start.

ShyGuy 08-03-2023 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by ReluctantEskimo (Post 3677692)
Like I said, not everyone thinks like you. I'm not surprised you can't get that through your head.


But it's a great start.

And not everyone thinks like you either. :)

Jet J 08-03-2023 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3677548)
There will be magic, you will definitely snap. I think flexibility is about to change significantly by late spring next year. 787🤔… A lot of research has gone into that aircraft to do nothing. When…well that is the question. I think, HA is kinda the leaning direction. If it happens this fall though, I mean honestly, it will take two years to fully integrate, and I would expect a 3-5 year fence CA only on the wide bodies. So let’s say, in the right seat of a 787 summer of 2026.

even a bad troll knows when to shut up. Geezus dude you’re just sad at this point.

jayme 08-03-2023 10:30 PM

Are you guys competing for a job in pilot recruiting or something?

airb320 08-03-2023 11:01 PM

All I wanna know is:

“Are you happy with your Haircut?”

😉


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