In regard to Scott’s latest email…
08-20-2023 | 09:07 AM
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08-20-2023 | 09:47 AM
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"We're a family here" is how companies manipulate stupid people into working more for less and assuming responsibility for problems that management doesn't feel like fixing. See also: "Culture."
I can't believe he thinks anyone still falls for that in 2023.
I can't believe he thinks anyone still falls for that in 2023.
08-20-2023 | 10:41 AM
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His latest email is a clear indication that Alaska management still just doesn’t “get it”. Trying to justify an hourly pay rate 10% below industry standard (on a comparable narrow body) and then condemning those who don’t drink the company kool aid is not helping. If you look at where we are, compensation wise, compared to Delta/United narrow body pilots alone (not fracturing in earning potential of flying a heavy), we are talking about Millions of Dollars in compensation short fall over a 30+ year career. Revenue per pilot, Alaska makes more $ than any other U.S. airline. No excuse
08-20-2023 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Day
What are we doing about attrition?
We have had a lot of questions about attrition and what are we doing about it.
As I mentioned we were at an industry meeting last week where I met with all the hiring managers and chief pilots from most of the US airlines. Attrition was one of the main topics, all airlines are experiencing this and at rates we have never seen before. I do talk with most of the FO’s that leave and there are three main reasons they choose to leave.
The ability to fly heavy aircraft.
Location of bases.
Negativity in the flight decks.
This third reason really bothers me.
Typically, an attriting pilot is very complimentary of our training department and the instructors they work with. Once on the line, there tends to be some negativity about our airline and a new pilot is getting asked “why would you ever come fly here?”; “you should leave”; and constant negativity. I know this is a very small percentage of our Captains but disappointing none the less.
A pilot comes to us because they want to be here. I remember getting hired and the excitement of being out on the line as a new FO. Thankfully I had great mentors that were positive and helpful. Please help me and help our airline with being positive and inclusive with our new pilots. Make them feel welcome and reassure them they have made a great choice to spend their career here at Alaska. I know we are not perfect, but we have a very solid airline that will serve us very well. This week we hired a pilot from another major airline. He was originally with Horizon. He said to me and his new hire class that it is great to be back at air group. We have a really good thing going here compared to his experience this past year.
We have had a lot of questions about attrition and what are we doing about it.
As I mentioned we were at an industry meeting last week where I met with all the hiring managers and chief pilots from most of the US airlines. Attrition was one of the main topics, all airlines are experiencing this and at rates we have never seen before. I do talk with most of the FO’s that leave and there are three main reasons they choose to leave.
The ability to fly heavy aircraft.
Location of bases.
Negativity in the flight decks.
This third reason really bothers me.
Typically, an attriting pilot is very complimentary of our training department and the instructors they work with. Once on the line, there tends to be some negativity about our airline and a new pilot is getting asked “why would you ever come fly here?”; “you should leave”; and constant negativity. I know this is a very small percentage of our Captains but disappointing none the less.
A pilot comes to us because they want to be here. I remember getting hired and the excitement of being out on the line as a new FO. Thankfully I had great mentors that were positive and helpful. Please help me and help our airline with being positive and inclusive with our new pilots. Make them feel welcome and reassure them they have made a great choice to spend their career here at Alaska. I know we are not perfect, but we have a very solid airline that will serve us very well. This week we hired a pilot from another major airline. He was originally with Horizon. He said to me and his new hire class that it is great to be back at air group. We have a really good thing going here compared to his experience this past year.
What a fücking liar. Dont say new hires leave because of that and actually expect us to believe you. What a dolt.
08-20-2023 | 12:14 PM
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Our union has conducted exit interviews with almost everyone who has separated from Alaska Airlines. In response to this company email it may be a good strategy for our union to publish the data that they have so painstakingly collected over the last 5 years. I'm sure we will see if it corroborates with the latest email from Scott Day.
It would be interesting to see if negativity was important or not. Just as it would be interesting to see if widebody aircraft or bases were the number one or number two reason. I'd like to see everyone get past the posturing stage and fix the attrition issue.
It would be interesting to see if negativity was important or not. Just as it would be interesting to see if widebody aircraft or bases were the number one or number two reason. I'd like to see everyone get past the posturing stage and fix the attrition issue.
08-20-2023 | 12:32 PM
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From: This side of the dirt.
2. The reason we had to cancel all those flights was due to the pilots picketing.
3. All airlines are experiencing record attrition. (Really? Delta, American, United?)
4. One of the reasons for attrition is negativity from Captains in the cockpit.
Just add it to the list C-suite excuses why they can’t compete. I’ve said it before…. They really don’t like to compete…. For routes, crew members, etc. Everyone else in this industry is competing to be an apex predator. We are scavengers. Is what it is.
08-20-2023 | 01:50 PM
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Dragging out negotiations, presenting lowball offers, and causing pilot QOL to deteriorate to the point where it was becoming unbearable was guaranteed to have consequences.
That however is not the main reason why new hires are leaving, and trying to scapegoat it as such is just a tad disingenuous.
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