Alaska vs. American
09-14-2023, 09:07 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by Chrismo01
Hi all,
I have been encountering quite the good problem as of late. I recently got a job offer from AA and have an interview with DL coming up. Either way it has begged the question on whether to leave AS or stay. I don't currently live in an AS base but was planning to move to Seattle soon. Not a huge fan of AA bases but there are a couple that I could see myself living in long term, same with DL. I haven't been at AS for all that long (<1 year, but approaching 1 year quickly), and I am a bit torn on what the right move would be. My main point of concern is the state of the economy, I have a fear of leaving and then being exposed to a furlough whereas staying would've kept me safe. Naturally AA's history in that department is not great, where Alaska is more favorable. To create some clarity, if it weren't for the fear of furlough, I don't think it would be as difficult of a decision for me. Sure, starting all over again and being a probationary pilot and being at the bottom of the list isn't very appealing but I believe it would be worth it in the end. But if it's all cut short because I get furloughed then what's the point. I am interested if anybody else has a similar dilemma or if someone who is more seasoned in the industry and its relationship with the economy have some words of advice. I would also like to point out that it is not lost on me how lucky I am to even have a decision like this. The industry is in an amazing place for people like us right now, and like I said, it's a very good problem to have.
Thanks,
C
I have been encountering quite the good problem as of late. I recently got a job offer from AA and have an interview with DL coming up. Either way it has begged the question on whether to leave AS or stay. I don't currently live in an AS base but was planning to move to Seattle soon. Not a huge fan of AA bases but there are a couple that I could see myself living in long term, same with DL. I haven't been at AS for all that long (<1 year, but approaching 1 year quickly), and I am a bit torn on what the right move would be. My main point of concern is the state of the economy, I have a fear of leaving and then being exposed to a furlough whereas staying would've kept me safe. Naturally AA's history in that department is not great, where Alaska is more favorable. To create some clarity, if it weren't for the fear of furlough, I don't think it would be as difficult of a decision for me. Sure, starting all over again and being a probationary pilot and being at the bottom of the list isn't very appealing but I believe it would be worth it in the end. But if it's all cut short because I get furloughed then what's the point. I am interested if anybody else has a similar dilemma or if someone who is more seasoned in the industry and its relationship with the economy have some words of advice. I would also like to point out that it is not lost on me how lucky I am to even have a decision like this. The industry is in an amazing place for people like us right now, and like I said, it's a very good problem to have.
Thanks,
C
Live where you work and this job is amazing. Can’t go wrong with any of these companies though.
GL
09-15-2023, 09:35 AM
#13
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Originally Posted by Jet J
My motto has always been avoid a commute at all costs. I turned down AA earlier this year, but I’m a Bay Area guy with a 20/30 min commute. Everyone I talk to seems miserable at AA and I didn't feel like dealing with that every week, but that had less to do with my decision.
Live where you work and this job is amazing. Can’t go wrong with any of these companies though.
GL
Live where you work and this job is amazing. Can’t go wrong with any of these companies though.
GL
09-15-2023, 09:53 AM
#14
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Joined APC: Aug 2023
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Originally Posted by Chrismo01
Hi all,
I have been encountering quite the good problem as of late. I recently got a job offer from AA and have an interview with DL coming up. Either way it has begged the question on whether to leave AS or stay. I don't currently live in an AS base but was planning to move to Seattle soon. Not a huge fan of AA bases but there are a couple that I could see myself living in long term, same with DL. I haven't been at AS for all that long (<1 year, but approaching 1 year quickly), and I am a bit torn on what the right move would be. My main point of concern is the state of the economy, I have a fear of leaving and then being exposed to a furlough whereas staying would've kept me safe. Naturally AA's history in that department is not great, where Alaska is more favorable. To create some clarity, if it weren't for the fear of furlough, I don't think it would be as difficult of a decision for me. Sure, starting all over again and being a probationary pilot and being at the bottom of the list isn't very appealing but I believe it would be worth it in the end. But if it's all cut short because I get furloughed then what's the point. I am interested if anybody else has a similar dilemma or if someone who is more seasoned in the industry and its relationship with the economy have some words of advice. I would also like to point out that it is not lost on me how lucky I am to even have a decision like this. The industry is in an amazing place for people like us right now, and like I said, it's a very good problem to have.
Thanks,
C
I have been encountering quite the good problem as of late. I recently got a job offer from AA and have an interview with DL coming up. Either way it has begged the question on whether to leave AS or stay. I don't currently live in an AS base but was planning to move to Seattle soon. Not a huge fan of AA bases but there are a couple that I could see myself living in long term, same with DL. I haven't been at AS for all that long (<1 year, but approaching 1 year quickly), and I am a bit torn on what the right move would be. My main point of concern is the state of the economy, I have a fear of leaving and then being exposed to a furlough whereas staying would've kept me safe. Naturally AA's history in that department is not great, where Alaska is more favorable. To create some clarity, if it weren't for the fear of furlough, I don't think it would be as difficult of a decision for me. Sure, starting all over again and being a probationary pilot and being at the bottom of the list isn't very appealing but I believe it would be worth it in the end. But if it's all cut short because I get furloughed then what's the point. I am interested if anybody else has a similar dilemma or if someone who is more seasoned in the industry and its relationship with the economy have some words of advice. I would also like to point out that it is not lost on me how lucky I am to even have a decision like this. The industry is in an amazing place for people like us right now, and like I said, it's a very good problem to have.
Thanks,
C
just stay/go to a place where you can drive to work
09-16-2023, 12:19 AM
#15
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Originally Posted by Chrismo01
Hi all,
I have been encountering quite the good problem as of late. I recently got a job offer from AA and have an interview with DL coming up. Either way it has begged the question on whether to leave AS or stay. I don't currently live in an AS base but was planning to move to Seattle soon. Not a huge fan of AA bases but there are a couple that I could see myself living in long term, same with DL. I haven't been at AS for all that long (<1 year, but approaching 1 year quickly), and I am a bit torn on what the right move would be. My main point of concern is the state of the economy, I have a fear of leaving and then being exposed to a furlough whereas staying would've kept me safe. Naturally AA's history in that department is not great, where Alaska is more favorable. To create some clarity, if it weren't for the fear of furlough, I don't think it would be as difficult of a decision for me. Sure, starting all over again and being a probationary pilot and being at the bottom of the list isn't very appealing but I believe it would be worth it in the end. But if it's all cut short because I get furloughed then what's the point. I am interested if anybody else has a similar dilemma or if someone who is more seasoned in the industry and its relationship with the economy have some words of advice. I would also like to point out that it is not lost on me how lucky I am to even have a decision like this. The industry is in an amazing place for people like us right now, and like I said, it's a very good problem to have.
Thanks,
C
I have been encountering quite the good problem as of late. I recently got a job offer from AA and have an interview with DL coming up. Either way it has begged the question on whether to leave AS or stay. I don't currently live in an AS base but was planning to move to Seattle soon. Not a huge fan of AA bases but there are a couple that I could see myself living in long term, same with DL. I haven't been at AS for all that long (<1 year, but approaching 1 year quickly), and I am a bit torn on what the right move would be. My main point of concern is the state of the economy, I have a fear of leaving and then being exposed to a furlough whereas staying would've kept me safe. Naturally AA's history in that department is not great, where Alaska is more favorable. To create some clarity, if it weren't for the fear of furlough, I don't think it would be as difficult of a decision for me. Sure, starting all over again and being a probationary pilot and being at the bottom of the list isn't very appealing but I believe it would be worth it in the end. But if it's all cut short because I get furloughed then what's the point. I am interested if anybody else has a similar dilemma or if someone who is more seasoned in the industry and its relationship with the economy have some words of advice. I would also like to point out that it is not lost on me how lucky I am to even have a decision like this. The industry is in an amazing place for people like us right now, and like I said, it's a very good problem to have.
Thanks,
C
09-28-2023, 06:31 PM
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SFO I would go United, SEA Delta, and SoCal aka LAX AA. I'm surprised the great OZ hasn't jumped on this with info about how terrible the legacies are. The good new is, as you already probably know, you're at a really good airline. If it is SEA or PDX you want to live in I wouldn't leave AK. Just my two cents.
10-17-2023, 06:05 AM
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What about the LAX?
Got CJOs from both and have no intention flying WB?
How soon can I get LAX at Alaska and how long would I expect to be on reserve there?
From many posts here it looks like it is a very chilled base...
Are there a lot of red-eyes? Multi-sector days?
Got CJOs from both and have no intention flying WB?
How soon can I get LAX at Alaska and how long would I expect to be on reserve there?
From many posts here it looks like it is a very chilled base...
Are there a lot of red-eyes? Multi-sector days?
Last edited by N4865G; 10-17-2023 at 06:17 AM.
10-17-2023, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by N4865G
What about the LAX?
Got CJOs from both and have no intention flying WB?
How soon can I get LAX at Alaska and how long would I expect to be on reserve there?
From many posts here it looks like it is a very chilled base...
Are there a lot of red-eyes? Multi-sector days?
Got CJOs from both and have no intention flying WB?
How soon can I get LAX at Alaska and how long would I expect to be on reserve there?
From many posts here it looks like it is a very chilled base...
Are there a lot of red-eyes? Multi-sector days?
Especially when compared to companies that operate only one type of flying where all bases are generic and flying can be shared/covered by other bases, you have much slower QOL seniority progression then places where the bases have different types and the seniority list is more diffused across the spectrum of fleets/types of flying.
10-17-2023, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by N4865G
What about the LAX?
Got CJOs from both and have no intention flying WB?
How soon can I get LAX at Alaska and how long would I expect to be on reserve there?
From many posts here it looks like it is a very chilled base...
Are there a lot of red-eyes? Multi-sector days?
Got CJOs from both and have no intention flying WB?
How soon can I get LAX at Alaska and how long would I expect to be on reserve there?
From many posts here it looks like it is a very chilled base...
Are there a lot of red-eyes? Multi-sector days?
10-17-2023, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by N4865G
How soon can I get LAX at Alaska and how long would I expect to be on reserve there?
Most junior FO is a July '23 hire and most junior line holder is a Dec '22 hire. A lot of Virgin guys are in transition training right now and that'll push everyone down because they are all senior.
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