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Old 10-22-2023 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
That’d be a negative ghost rider
Dude that will save you like, a minute and 30 seconds. Per engine!

Also: Not shocked I found this on the SWA forum
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Old 10-22-2023 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
Dude that will save you like, a minute and 30 seconds. Per engine!

Also: Not shocked I found this on the SWA forum
dude, then you read nobody there condones it. But at least now you’ll recognize the deviation quicker.
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Old 10-22-2023 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
dude, then you read nobody there condones it. But at least now you’ll recognize the deviation quicker.
Yeah, I work at SWA and am a line dog and had never heard of this even happening until I came on here. It got shut down quickly and isn't a thing. There's always somebody who slips through the interview process.
Redeyes will be at SWA. It's only a matter of time. Planning says 1-2 percent of flying. I am guessing mostly from Hawaii going east and maybe some transcons. The idea, according to network ops, is to get a second morning push available without doing what we do now, which is the punishing 4am reports to fly a short flight (ROC-BWI for example) to a base with 30 people on board. Customers, crews, and planners hate those flights. They would rather have a few more aircraft available so that a 7am flight is tenable and can make a connection. I would rather do a redeye as the last leg of a trip and sleep it off than some of the east coast flying we do on 3 consecutive days.
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Old 10-22-2023 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
dude, then you read nobody there condones it. But at least now you’ll recognize the deviation quicker.
No one condones it on a public forum yes. However, the only group pilot that has managed to propagate a technique, which is bypassing a safety function on a multi million dollar engine to the point line check airmen we’re involved is where you happen to work.

The clown part is where it doesn’t even save more than a couple minutes.
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Old 10-22-2023 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
No one condones it on a public forum yes. However, the only group pilot that has managed to propagate a technique, which is bypassing a safety function on a multi million dollar engine to the point line check airmen we’re involved is where you happen to work.

The clown part is where it doesn’t even save more than a couple minutes.
go fly a trip with your check airman and find out what dumb techniques your coworkers have discovered. Nobody is immune. And then don’t be afraid to talk about it…
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Old 10-22-2023 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
But the real question is. Did you teach them how to bypass the bowed motoring function on the MAX?
What thread was that in?
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Old 10-22-2023 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
I live in the junior base for both carriers (SWA/OAK and AS/SFO.) My #1 priority, by far, is scheduling flexibility. Upgrade time is also somewhat important, as I only have 15 yrs left in the game. Time to hold a line is also important, because reserve is a special kind of torture at my current shop.

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- 308 total have been hired here YTD, 284 of those still remain as of today
- There have been 10 classes at AS since 6/1 this year (out of 23 classes YTD)
- Those 10 classes are made up of 125 CURRENTLY still here (this # doesn't account for people from those classes leaving since), with the following breakdown:
* 0 ANC (0%)
* 0 PDX (0%)
* 21 SEA (17%)
* 34 LAX (27%)
* 70 SFO (56%)

For the NOV bid period:
- 85 lines total for SFO
- 66 of those lines had 0 redeye flights (0200-0500L)
- The most junior lineholder for NOV was hired June 2023. This pilot is 99% in base currently.
- The most junior lineholder with no redeye flights was hired April 2023. This pilot is 94% in base currently.
- 5 lines went un-awarded

At the time of primary bidding for NOV, there were 89 FO's, but since then 8 have been released from training. 5 to secondary lines, 3 to reserve. These numbers are likely to change in the coming months as more FO's get released from training. The jury is still out on how well this base/seat will be staffed in the short term.
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Old 10-22-2023 | 03:24 PM
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SW and it’s not even close
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Old 10-22-2023 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lileskimo
SW and it’s not even close
Lol ok. Go read through their sub forum, moral is in the toilet. I wish the best for them, but not somewhere i’d want to hang my hat at the moment.
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Old 10-22-2023 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Lileskimo
SW and it’s not even close
maybe if it was last year but I think AS for a surprise is on top on this one
until a new contract is signed (and we see what WN gets) for now I think AS > WN
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