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Old 10-08-2024 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by demonrat
I think there's a pumpkin spice latte involved.
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Old 10-08-2024 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by yallMahomies
Obviously no hiring going on right now but once it does pick up how long does PDX typically take for reserve then line? How much could you credit if you pick up a trip or two on your day off if bidding reserve? Upgrade time? Where do the in base guys live around PDX? Please keep it related to this thred meaning no arguing over portland as a city.. thanks.
Just remember what’s true today doesn’t mean it will be true tomorrow. If we start actively hiring again PDX could be had out of training. If we don’t it could take years. Before Covid it took about 2 years to get in as an FO and about 8 years to upgrade. Currently you can make more money on reserve with minimal to no work. The JCBA could change everything though.
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Old 10-08-2024 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by yallMahomies
~6 year upgrade not terrible for a not so popular base. Have there been a decent amount of trips available to pick up during busy season for juniors? $$ would take priority the first few years and that's why I've been wondering on avg credit for hustlers out of PDX..
Keep in mind we hired 10 for all of 2024 and will not hire again until Q4 2025, according to our last pilot call. This would add at least 2 years to the 6 year estimate. If I were on the outside looking in I'd listen to the BA quarterly investor call and see how deliveries look for 2025. Right now, things do not look good:

"In a note Monday, she forecast that Boeing will be producing 25 Max aircraft per month if the strike ends in October but the company’s planned ramp-up to 38 Maxes a month will be delayed by a year."

Listening in to the AS quarterly investor call could give you more information about the timetable for deliveries. I'd get my resume and logbook polished up. Try and get some facetime with mgmt pilots at pilot hiring events to set yourself up for success once the window opens. I wouldn't bet on it opening during 2025 and it could be delayed further.

Also: the next wave of upgrade will go very senior in PDX. I fly with a lot of FOs senior to me and they often express FOMO over their decision to delay upgrade when there were monthly upgrade bids during 2023.
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Old 10-08-2024 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
Keep in mind we hired 10 for all of 2024 and will not hire again until Q4 2025, according to our last pilot call. This would add at least 2 years to the 6 year estimate. If I were on the outside looking in I'd listen to the BA quarterly investor call and see how deliveries look for 2025. Right now, things do not look good:

"In a note Monday, she forecast that Boeing will be producing 25 Max aircraft per month if the strike ends in October but the company’s planned ramp-up to 38 Maxes a month will be delayed by a year."

Listening in to the AS quarterly investor call could give you more information about the timetable for deliveries. I'd get my resume and logbook polished up. Try and get some facetime with mgmt pilots at pilot hiring events to set yourself up for success once the window opens. I wouldn't bet on it opening during 2025 and it could be delayed further.

Also: the next wave of upgrade will go very senior in PDX. I fly with a lot of FOs senior to me and they often express FOMO over their decision to delay upgrade when there were monthly upgrade bids during 2023.
To the second part, makes sense with no open time. To the first part, aren’t all the ULCCs delaying NEO deliveries? Sad story I know.

Shouldn't Alaska pilots be more open to merger related stagnation in the current Boeing situation. Seems like a non event with how little movement there’d be otherwise.
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Old 10-08-2024 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
Keep in mind we hired 10 for all of 2024 and will not hire again until Q4 2025, according to our last pilot call. This would add at least 2 years to the 6 year estimate. If I were on the outside looking in I'd listen to the BA quarterly investor call and see how deliveries look for 2025. Right now, things do not look good:

"In a note Monday, she forecast that Boeing will be producing 25 Max aircraft per month if the strike ends in October but the company’s planned ramp-up to 38 Maxes a month will be delayed by a year."

Listening in to the AS quarterly investor call could give you more information about the timetable for deliveries. I'd get my resume and logbook polished up. Try and get some facetime with mgmt pilots at pilot hiring events to set yourself up for success once the window opens. I wouldn't bet on it opening during 2025 and it could be delayed further.

Also: the next wave of upgrade will go very senior in PDX. I fly with a lot of FOs senior to me and they often express FOMO over their decision to delay upgrade when there were monthly upgrade bids during 2023.
Hey I thought you only posted on your reserve days. Shouldn’t you be doing something less fat and nerdy?
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Old 10-08-2024 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PineappleXpres
To the second part, makes sense with no open time. To the first part, aren’t all the ULCCs delaying NEO deliveries? Sad story I know.

Shouldn't Alaska pilots be more open to merger related stagnation in the current Boeing situation. Seems like a non event with how little movement there’d be otherwise.
Best case Angle Lake doesn't decide to get rid of any more exisiting aircraft. Sadly that is the best case as we likely will have a 2025 with much fewer Boeing deliveries than expected.
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