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Old 03-19-2019, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by av8or View Post
OTZ..... fake news? Or just irrelevant because A. You’ve only lived in negotiation dynamic that leads with “what are we gonna have to give up?” B. You don’t give rats a$$ about the bottom 20%



Btw... you’re right.... they don’t want commuters. Unfortunately for them (and possibly YOU), they bought about 800 of em with the VX purchase, and, also hired a decent amount of commuters last year, and prob will continue to as the supply of “qualified” pilots dwindles. You are fast becoming the minority my friend. That’s a fact.


Basically anyone hired from now on can’t afford to own housing in all of our bases. Unless they have a trust fund, second source of income or they are married to another high income earner.


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Old 03-19-2019, 05:35 PM
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Basically anyone hired from now on can’t afford to own housing in all of our bases. Unless they have a trust fund, second source of income or they are married to another high income earner.


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This^^. You buy an airline that has bases in LAX and SFO you better expect to hire commuters. On top of that, Seattle and Portland aren’t exactly cheap either, even for new hires in the first few years. This ain’t the 90’s anymore, all of Alaska bases are in expensive areas to live.
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:03 PM
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Hahahahahahaha Hahahahah sane work rules as delta. Proof that all the money in the world can’t buy intelligence
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Old 03-19-2019, 10:16 PM
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Rock solid info... You should post more often. Are you kidding me?
Please post what we gained for giving up the pensions, or was that Kasher also?
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Old 03-20-2019, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 View Post
.... 2005-2013.....AMR DAL UAL CAL NWA.... they all sucked and you guys were paying a CA $95 an hour to fly a A320 and "you had to start over at year one CA rates once you upgraded". You kidd right, ....?
That's fake news, no kidding.
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Old 03-20-2019, 06:54 AM
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Basically anyone hired from now on can’t afford to own housing in all of our bases. Unless they have a trust fund, second source of income or they are married to another high income earner.


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Old 03-20-2019, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyin1500 View Post
Show me the Sugar Mamas!!!

They ain't gonna look like Sofia Vergara!
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 View Post
.... and you guys were paying a CA $95 an hour to fly a A320 and you had to start over at year one CA rates once you upgraded.
For the record, VX pilots did not start over at Year 1, once they upgraded....
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Old 03-21-2019, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by All Bizniz View Post
For the record, VX pilots did not start over at Year 1, once they upgraded....
Yeah somebodies confusing them with one of the foriegn Virgin airlines
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Old 03-21-2019, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by echelon View Post
So I could start with 13 days off in a row, followed by 17 reserve days in a row, and end up with 15-16 off because they'd be forced to give me 30hrs of rest in the middle of the 17 day block that I made? What's the catch?
The only possible catches are that if you end up with a 30 hour layover it could potentially reset the clock, but that's not common at all, and that they can assign the days off however they want.

In my experience though, that pattern resulted in 17-18 days off because they would give me a rest day around every 4 days to keep me legal for 4 day trips that may come available. Sometimes they would do it at the 3 day point if that day fell on a day with high coverage and they had sequential days of low coverage to follow.

You are also automatically released at noon on your last on call day if not on assignment (short call is not an assignment) prior to a hard non fly day. You have to ask if it's a soft non fly day but I never had them deny it for me.

Hard non fly days are says you request after bid awards that you can't be extended into (they call them golden days). Any golden days awarded during a stretch of days off count as being at the beginning of that stretch with the caveat that days you are off via trades are not golden days even if a golden day was traded.
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