a year or two is quite optimistic.

Does management not have any incentive to move things along with Delta and UAL negotiating right now? If they knock it out of the park it won't help Brad and Ben out at all.

I see what you’re saying, but don’t they claim the major airlines are not in our peer group and as such can’t be used as comparison. It’s of course a ridiculous point of view given we operate at least some of the same equipment.

Brad and Ben made that same mistake during the merger negotiations. They dragged their feet and got burned by the higher cost of crews because of Americans pilot raise “just because” and B6 and others.

Not actually true....We lost on each item of arbitration....Our pay rates are exactly what they planned on paying. Dragging their feet worked just fine for them....The feedback they are getting is telling them that their approach is working just fine....We continue to be remarkable everyday....Extensions-sure, premium on days off-sure, FAR max instead of contract max-sure. We are doing everything we can to elevate the guest experience....No need to let the contract get in the way of that. Attrition, sick leave and employee surveys are not metrics used by leadership. “Meat in the seat” and flights on time...

Unknowable. Brad and Ben’s offer at arbitration was when AMR already got their substantial raises so it’s certainly possible that their stance was adjusted when the market shifted.

We have lived all my 20 years in the same place below the “Major” airlines....Easy math problem. Many came with in a percent on the estimates. Months before any raise at American or any offer from Brad.

I heard from a recruiter today at NGPA the 2020 hiring plan was 400. I hope I’m one of them 🤠

I hope that’s true...hard to imagine though with no MAX. Good luck.

At most it’ll be half that. The recruiter was parroting the Air Group talking point - 400 split between Alaska and Horizon.