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correcting11 08-06-2021 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by RNO Flyer (Post 3274666)
I’m in the same boat as you. Has anything changed on the dashboard or does it say “Application Received”?


Just “application received” for me on this boat.

flyprdu 08-06-2021 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Hot Dog (Post 3274599)
Choosing and supporting to give up your freedom of choice is tremendously poor and sick judgment.

You're free to go drive drunk. It's a free country.

Just don't expect to be hired at an airline afterwards.

ChopNDrop 08-06-2021 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by RNO Flyer (Post 3274666)
I’m in the same boat as you. Has anything changed on the dashboard or does it say “Application Received”?


Just application received here

BurnerAccount69 08-06-2021 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by ChopNDrop (Post 3274831)
Just application received here

Same, wondering how they're doing the TBNT

arbalist1 08-08-2021 05:51 AM

Are the mandatory retirements on Alaska's main APC page correct? I was running a rough calculation of seniority movement based on that versus current pilot group size and it looks like it will take almost 20 years to make it to 50% seniority. That's astronomically higher than everywhere else. I know there's a lot of variables, but surely those numbers need to be updated? The only thing that would change that is if you guys have very high attrition of relatively senior pilots.

flysnoopy76 08-08-2021 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by arbalist1 (Post 3275821)
Are the mandatory retirements on Alaska's main APC page correct? I was running a rough calculation of seniority movement based on that versus current pilot group size and it looks like it will take almost 20 years to make it to 50% seniority. That's astronomically higher than everywhere else. I know there's a lot of variables, but surely those numbers need to be updated? The only thing that would change that is if you guys have very high attrition of relatively senior pilots.

im not sure it’s perfectly accurate but it’s close, Alaska is not a place you come and expect any sort of quick movement up the seniority list.

greaser 08-08-2021 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by arbalist1 (Post 3275821)
Are the mandatory retirements on Alaska's main APC page correct? I was running a rough calculation of seniority movement based on that versus current pilot group size and it looks like it will take almost 20 years to make it to 50% seniority. That's astronomically higher than everywhere else. I know there's a lot of variables, but surely those numbers need to be updated? The only thing that would change that is if you guys have very high attrition of relatively senior pilots.

I'm not aware of an 'official' seniority calculator, but a pilot made their own seniority calculator after the merger. Based on data from early this year, looking only at mandatory retirements, the most junior pilot on the list today would reach 50% in late 2037.

AS retirement numbers are relatively small for the current decade and will pick up to somewhere in the ~90-130/year range beginning in 2029. That looks to be when someone would see movement not related to growth. In the mean time I imagine the replacement of the Airbus fleet with 737s will slow things down for pilot progression.

What else will happen to the industry between now and then?

ImperialxRat 08-08-2021 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by arbalist1 (Post 3275821)
Are the mandatory retirements on Alaska's main APC page correct? I was running a rough calculation of seniority movement based on that versus current pilot group size and it looks like it will take almost 20 years to make it to 50% seniority. That's astronomically higher than everywhere else. I know there's a lot of variables, but surely those numbers need to be updated? The only thing that would change that is if you guys have very high attrition of relatively senior pilots.

I put updated numbers in post #4876 of this thread.

Cruz5350 08-08-2021 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by ImperialxRat (Post 3262837)
Here is an updated list of our retirements for the next 10 years. This was taken from the Feb seniority list
2021 - 11

2022 - 38

2023 - 47

2024 - 56

2025 - 79

2026 - 72

2027 - 97

2028 - 79

2029 - 106

2030 - 79

2031 - 91


For those wondering…

Cruz5350 08-08-2021 08:49 AM

Our “big” years we retire around 3-3.5% of the list assuming we stay around 3000 pilots vs the Big 3 that retire 5-6% a year.


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