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ElCaribe 05-11-2022 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 3420892)
I find everyone's double standards on OTZ's predictions pretty hilarious. Now that Seattle might be in jeopardy, people are suddenly hostile.

https://i.imgflip.com/6ftw16.jpg

The responses to OTZ posts are based on the specific audience. Alaska closing SFO is drastically different than United buying AS. Still stands that he’s just throwing out guesses. Or I guess the BM and BT just casually told OTZ about everything going on behind closed doors. Makes sense.

TheDuster 05-11-2022 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by KnockKnock (Post 3420806)
You write like you have a drinking problem. I don't blame you though, it must be tough dealing with the fact that you will forever be commuting from the PNW.

This kid is a clown… His questions are asinine and his theories are bunk. I love it.

KnockKnock 05-11-2022 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 3420892)
I find everyone's double standards on OTZ's predictions pretty hilarious. Now that Seattle might be in jeopardy, people are suddenly hostile.

https://i.imgflip.com/6ftw16.jpg

Why would Seattle be in jeopardy? It's the only reason any other airline would have any interest in an acquisition of, or merger with, AS. Especially UAL. It's the only major hub a company, other than maybe DAL, wouldn't have to give up gates in.

flysnoopy76 05-11-2022 07:56 PM

Here’s what it boils down to. Is United, American, Delta, or Southwest buying Alaska? Almost certainly not. Is Alaska merging with JetBlue, Sun Country, Hawaiian, Avelo, Spirit, Frontier, or Allegiant? Probably not. Have there been discussions about any of the above? Probably. Is Alaska going to slog along trying to exist as they have all along? Most Likely.

av8or 05-11-2022 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3420755)
BT was trying to push a HAL purchase late last fall, when the boards final vote broke “NO”, he walked. Even BM broke with BT and voted against, he really thinks one day he will run AAL😂. SWA got wind ALK was shopping and went over our books and made an offer, a weak offer but an offer none the less. JBLU’s offer to buy NK, required AS to explore a merger, this has went nowhere based on AS being dug in on brand and control. I was told AS was set to make a cash offer for JBLU until their Spirit offer was rejected. I was told PB has become chairman to explore the potential sale of AS. Recently, I have seen some things that made me confident a bigger fish has approached AS. I am reading tea leaves but am confident who the whale is.

I was told by someone else BM wants to go it alone and if we fail that the shareholders are protected by OneWorld and AAL. If we were to fail on our own, we would just fold into AAL. That same person said BM is intent on not giving us contract, ever. He believes he will force his proposal down our throats when the economic tables turn. In the mean time he will use the savings provided by us working under our current contract to establish long term deals with other labor groups. He is also confident we will be parked for 6 MO’s starting in June.🙄

And ah, maybe just go to UAL, I wouldn’t want anyone to go to an airline based on merger speculation. I would not come to AS, I would go to the best company that works best for that individual pilot. Now is the time, you really could go anywhere you want right now, why settle.

Well, that’s cool, cause I’m intent on burnin this MFn house down around him with a strike if we get released. Just sayin.

Jetlikespeed 05-11-2022 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by av8or (Post 3420946)
Well, that’s cool, cause I’m intent on burnin this MFn house down around him with a strike if we get released. Just sayin.

anyone know any updates from the negotiator?

OTZeagle1 05-11-2022 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by av8or (Post 3420946)
Well, that’s cool, cause I’m intent on burnin this MFn house down around him with a strike if we get released. Just sayin.

It would be fun to watch, but AS management top down thinks there is ZERO chance we will ever be released. They honestly believe it’s laughable, SW is actually laughing at you. They don’t think they have to do much in mediation, just show up and drag it out. No matter how little effort the put in, a release will never happen. Maybe they know something, maybe they paid for something, but they are laughing at the strike vote and expect zero shift in booking from it.

AK22 05-12-2022 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3420978)
It would be fun to watch, but AS management top down thinks there is ZERO chance we will ever be released. They honestly believe it’s laughable, SW is actually laughing at you. They don’t think they have to do much in mediation, just show up and drag it out. No matter how little effort the put in, a release will never happen. Maybe they know something, maybe they paid for something, but they are laughing at the strike vote and expect zero shift in booking from it.

That’s cool, we don’t even need to strike. They’re running this place into the ditch at full throttle anyway. How much share holder equity destruction will the board tolerate. Everything has limits, including the arrogance of this management team.

rmcbear08 05-12-2022 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlikespeed (Post 3420971)
anyone know any updates from the negotiator?

I spoke with CG at the most recent coffee sit in SEA. He said they were hopeful they would hear something by the end of this week, but that no timetable was given.

Sounds like the mediator was pretty upset with the company and their lack of preparation and un-willingness to engage on big ticket items. Hence the reason the third day of negotiations was cancelled during the last session.

He (CG) reiterated that we have a LONG way to go before we get released, or if it actually happens at all. We’ve only had what, 3 mediation sessions? It’ll be a while…

Just important to remember it’s a process and we just have to be patient. Let the negotiation committee do their job, stay engaged and stay professional.

Jetlikespeed 05-12-2022 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by rmcbear08 (Post 3421116)
I spoke with CG at the most recent coffee sit in SEA. He said they were hopeful they would hear something by the end of this week, but that no timetable was given.

Sounds like the mediator was pretty upset with the company and their lack of preparation and un-willingness to engage on big ticket items. Hence the reason the third day of negotiations was cancelled during the last session.

He (CG) reiterated that we have a LONG way to go before we get released, or if it actually happens at all. We’ve only had what, 3 mediation sessions? It’ll be a while…

Just important to remember it’s a process and we just have to be patient. Let the negotiation committee do their job, stay engaged and stay professional.

thanks for the update I’ve been waiting to go to a coffee sit in SEA but every time I have sit in sea I get re routed (the joys of reserve) but figured we have a long way to go


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