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Old 11-25-2022, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet View Post
I trained in 2018 so it's been a minute. I don't think the footprint has changed a lot for 737 initial. Indoc was about a week. We they moved to systems and the emergency equipment after a couple of weeks which I think had a systems test we moved to a static trainer for procedures. We then moved to simulator training. All of training was wrapped up in two months. We stayed at a hotel about a 15 minute drive from the training center. Which was not in a very good area but had a reasonable restaurant and there was a pretty good Mexican place next door. There was also a Safeway that was a pretty long walk away.

I wouldn't prepare at all. You will just hurt yourself. If you apply yourself and study the training should be challenging but not difficult.

The quality of training at AS depends on your instructor. I've had good ones and bad ones. Overall the training is good but specific events have been some of the worst in my career.

1000% this. I got chewed out for handling a situation as laid out in the manuals. I passed, but some of the legends in the training department preach “technidure” a bit too much. When you change instructors every few sims and everyone has their own way of doing things, it gets super frustrating.
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Old 11-25-2022, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet View Post
I wouldn't prepare at all. You will just hurt yourself.
That's horrible advice. Have your limitations and memory items memorized before you. If you get Bus take a good look at the flows ahead of time too, for the Guppy at least get a general idea. That all helps things go more smoothly and absorb new info when actually in class. The Bus instructors are way better and knowledgeable. They ones in Seattle weren't even line pilots. Good luck!
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Old 11-25-2022, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Disappointment View Post
That's horrible advice. Have your limitations and memory items memorized before you. If you get Bus take a good look at the flows ahead of time too, for the Guppy at least get a general idea. That all helps things go more smoothly and absorb new info when actually in class. The Bus instructors are way better and knowledgeable. They ones in Seattle weren't even line pilots. Good luck!
This is horrible advice, and simply doesn’t make sense. How is someone supposed to study limitations, Alaska memory items, and flows before they start training? You don’t get any materials before training, in fact you won’t even get airplane specific training materials until Indoc is nearly finished.

Training is very good, and really depends on the individuals attitude. A positive attitude, and showing up having studied and prepared for the lesson goes a long way and will insure success.

Again no need to pre-study, and really not even possible. Just show up well rested and ready to learn day one.
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Old 11-26-2022, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Disappointment View Post
That's horrible advice. Have your limitations and memory items memorized before you. If you get Bus take a good look at the flows ahead of time too, for the Guppy at least get a general idea. That all helps things go more smoothly and absorb new info when actually in class. The Bus instructors are way better and knowledgeable. They ones in Seattle weren't even line pilots. Good luck!
Actually your advice is no good, and doesn’t even make sense. You don’t even get the Alaska memory items, flows, or systems until the end of Indoc. They do this intentionally, as they don’t want you to pre-study.

Just show up well rested, and ready to learn with a good attitude and you’ll do just fine.
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Old 11-26-2022, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet View Post
I trained in 2018 so it's been a minute. I don't think the footprint has changed a lot for 737 initial. Indoc was about a week. We they moved to systems and the emergency equipment after a couple of weeks which I think had a systems test we moved to a static trainer for procedures. We then moved to simulator training. All of training was wrapped up in two months. We stayed at a hotel about a 15 minute drive from the training center. Which was not in a very good area but had a reasonable restaurant and there was a pretty good Mexican place next door. There was also a Safeway that was a pretty long walk away.

I wouldn't prepare at all. You will just hurt yourself. If you apply yourself and study the training should be challenging but not difficult.

The quality of training at AS depends on your instructor. I've had good ones and bad ones. Overall the training is good but specific events have been some of the worst in my career.
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That's horrible advice. Have your limitations and memory items memorized before you. If you get Bus take a good look at the flows ahead of time too, for the Guppy at least get a general idea. That all helps things go more smoothly and absorb new info when actually in class. The Bus instructors are way better and knowledgeable. They ones in Seattle weren't even line pilots. Good luck!
As far as looking at the flows go, memory items/limitations, should I start to study both the bus and the guppy? I was under the assumption that fleet type won't be assigned until showing up to class.

Which beings up another question. Recent classes; have they been going exclusively to one fleet type, or is there a mix within the class?
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Old 11-26-2022, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Disappointment View Post
That's horrible advice. Have your limitations and memory items memorized before you. If you get Bus take a good look at the flows ahead of time too, for the Guppy at least get a general idea. That all helps things go more smoothly and absorb new info when actually in class. The Bus instructors are way better and knowledgeable. They ones in Seattle weren't even line pilots. Good luck!
I imagine it would be very difficult to get AS specific items as a prospective new hire. Law of primacy and all I wouldn't want to study the wrong thing and then show up to AS training and have to unlearn my primary impressions of the 737. I guess if one could get their hands on AS specific items it wouldn't be a bad idea. I just wouldn't want to learn it the wrong way first.
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Old 11-26-2022, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sculprit View Post
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As far as looking at the flows go, memory items/limitations, should I start to study both the bus and the guppy? I was under the assumption that fleet type won't be assigned until showing up to class.

Which beings up another question. Recent classes; have they been going exclusively to one fleet type, or is there a mix within the class?
Read my post up above…
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Old 11-27-2022, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet View Post
I imagine it would be very difficult to get AS specific items as a prospective new hire.
Training info for transport category aircraft may bleed over into SSI, and also might constitute "flight training" for which TSA requires some security checks. Perhaps that's why most airlines don't seem to provide training packages in advance to prospective new-hires. It used to be common practice back in the day... and there would be a test on day one.
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Old 11-27-2022, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Sculprit View Post
As far as looking at the flows go, memory items/limitations, should I start to study both the bus and the guppy?
Have a friend that's on property give you the memory items and limitations for the Guppy, all the new hires are going to that. Memorize those and you'll be ahead of the curve.
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Old 11-27-2022, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FreqFlyer View Post
How is someone supposed to study limitations, Alaska memory items, and flows before they start training?
Ask someone you know that works there? Uh but I guess that would be hard if you dont have any friends

You've been on property 4 months and this is your first airlines. Easy dispensing advice until you actually get some experience.
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