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Old 03-30-2023, 11:30 AM
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whats min day off? and then whats average days off on the line? thanks
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Old 03-30-2023, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by breadwinner69
whats min day off? and then whats average days off on the line? thanks
Minimum days off is 12, and the average is probably 14.
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Old 03-30-2023, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by breadwinner69
whats min day off? and then whats average days off on the line? thanks
from the scheduling committee
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Old 04-02-2023, 10:57 AM
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Numbers above are correct but misleading. When building schedules the union, which has significant control over line building, thinks the goal is to make turn lines (two legs out and back in the same day). That is why the union summary specifically includes them. All the high credit per day lines with over 17 off get packed into those turn lines, and are picked by very senior pilots. After turns, they try to make "pure" lines for some reason. These have you do the same type of trips all month, like Hawaii, SE AK, up and down the west coast, 4 days, or redeye 2-days with less than 14 hr rest during a day layover, etc. Whatever pure categories they have come up with. The rest of the trips get assembled into random lines where you make average daily guarantee, and nobody is willing to or has enough days off to trade with you.
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Old 04-02-2023, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by polymox
Numbers above are correct but misleading. When building schedules the union, which has significant control over line building, thinks the goal is to make turn lines (two legs out and back in the same day). That is why the union summary specifically includes them. All the high credit per day lines with over 17 off get packed into those turn lines, and are picked by very senior pilots. After turns, they try to make "pure" lines for some reason. These have you do the same type of trips all month, like Hawaii, SE AK, up and down the west coast, 4 days, or redeye 2-days with less than 14 hr rest during a day layover, etc. Whatever pure categories they have come up with. The rest of the trips get assembled into random lines where you make average daily guarantee, and nobody is willing to or has enough days off to trade with you.
”Correct but misleading” WTF does that mean. It’s data….oh, and senior pilots bid the best lines? Weird…..
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Old 04-02-2023, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by polymox
Numbers above are correct but misleading. When building schedules the union, which has significant control over line building, thinks the goal is to make turn lines (two legs out and back in the same day). That is why the union summary specifically includes them. All the high credit per day lines with over 17 off get packed into those turn lines, and are picked by very senior pilots. After turns, they try to make "pure" lines for some reason. These have you do the same type of trips all month, like Hawaii, SE AK, up and down the west coast, 4 days, or redeye 2-days with less than 14 hr rest during a day layover, etc. Whatever pure categories they have come up with. The rest of the trips get assembled into random lines where you make average daily guarantee, and nobody is willing to or has enough days off to trade with you.
One persons treasure, is another persons trash. I don’t care if I was #1 on the list, I’d never bid pure turn lines. They aren’t for me…
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Old 04-03-2023, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AK22
”Correct but misleading” WTF does that mean. It’s data….oh, and senior pilots bid the best lines? Weird…..
I was just trying to inform the applicants seeing an average of 15 or 16 days off. The bottom half of lines have 12-14 or in some months 15 off because they don't value efficient lines, they value turns and pure lines.
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Old 04-03-2023, 11:17 AM
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Here’s the total line days off breakdown by base
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Old 04-03-2023, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by polymox
I was just trying to inform the applicants seeing an average of 15 or 16 days off. The bottom half of lines have 12-14 or in some months 15 off because they don't value efficient lines, they value turns and pure lines.

yes that’s how an average works. Some lines will be less than the average and some more.

“a number expressing the central or typical value in a set of data, in particular the mode, median, or (most commonly) the mean, which is calculated by dividingthe sum of the values in the set by their number.”
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Old 04-04-2023, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by polymox
I was just trying to inform the applicants seeing an average of 15 or 16 days off. The bottom half of lines have 12-14 or in some months 15 off because they don't value efficient lines, they value turns and pure lines.
This is false.
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