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OCCP 11-23-2017 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Pogey Bait (Post 2470928)
Sounds like a commuter airline schedule, been there done that. Complete crap.



But Alaska is a legacy airline and you get to be part of their awesome culture

CessnaFlyGirl 11-23-2017 07:53 AM

Im curious. is Rickair7777 a regional guy that posts on everything? or a moderator? im so lost :eek:

Mea25000 11-23-2017 08:56 AM

AS is not a commuter friendly airline. My understanding is they think commuting increases sick time use, negative impacts pick ups on days they need help. Hopefully, this culture will change going forward. Scheduling rule changes are definitely needed going forward to protect and aid commuters.

N19906 11-23-2017 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by CessnaFlyGirl (Post 2471032)
Im curious. is Rickair7777 a regional guy that posts on everything? or a moderator? im so lost :eek:

I believe he’s OO, and he’s a mod.
I’m good with him, his stuff is usually fine.

waterboy 11-23-2017 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by EA CO AS (Post 2469146)
I'm curious to know what the pilot groups think regarding the upcoming allocation of Airbus equipment to largely north-south routes (LAXSEA, SEAPHX, etc.) while the 739ER fleet is placed on what were once VX transcons like LAXJFK, SFOJFK, etc. Does the change affect whether or not pre-merger AS pilots would prefer to transfer to Airbus equipment, etc?

Not trying to start a war, I'm just genuinely curious to know what the AS and VX pilots think and how it might color your perspectives on the integration.

There have been rumors about this. Did something official come out?

EA CO AS 11-23-2017 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by waterboy (Post 2471406)
There have been rumors about this. Did something official come out?

They're not rumors, the plan was disclosed during the Investor Day presentation in March; the deck can be found here:

Event Details | Investors | Alaska Airlines

Jump ahead to slide 58.

Virgalask330 11-24-2017 04:01 AM

And what would this mean for the vx jfk base?

sailingfun 11-24-2017 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by flyingdutchman1 (Post 2469256)
First of all, I’m not at either Alaska or Virgin, but I speak as a pilot. I think you view what pilots want incorrectly. You are assuming we bid an aircraft based on routes. I don’t know of many pilots that do that. Most pilots bid on where they want to be based. If a pilot lives in one of the domiciles then they will bid that base no matter what the routes are. If the pilot commutes then they will bid the base that allows for the best commute, not the route.

For me, I bid the base that I want to live in and I really don’t care what the routes are or if I fly a Cessna 172 or a Boeing 747. I just want to be based where I live. If you want to know how people will bid, it will be on where they want to be based, not the routes the aircraft are flying.

That is certainly not the case at Delta. Many pilots bid routes and equipment.

rickair7777 11-24-2017 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2471437)
That is certainly not the case at Delta. Many pilots bid routes and equipment.

DAL (and AA/UA) has sufficient variety in routes and equipment that you might have better QOL commuting to a specific airplane, rather than flying what's available near you. Also in order to maximize income, you have to chase bigger airplanes.

cactusmike 11-28-2017 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2471437)
That is certainly not the case at Delta. Many pilots bid routes and equipment.

Same at American. I’m JFK based but live in PHX. I like the European and SA flying we do on the 767, plus the trips are more productive than the PHX 757 flying. Once the 767s move to PHL I probably will bid there until I can hold LAX on the 787 or JFK on the 777. Routes and equipment translate to a bigger paycheck.


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