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Old 06-15-2016, 03:23 PM
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Alaska Airlines CEO Says He Might Keep Virgin America Brand - ABC News
Is this allowed by Alaska's Scope clause?
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What scope clause?
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Posturing. I hope
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Posturing. I hope
No. Just laying the ground work and pretending to not know what they're going to do. Look out for the VX whipsaw coming to a base near you.
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Both sides need to do everything possible to prevent being pitted against one another.

It appears there was a little clarification:

AS+VX: The future of the brand
No decisions have been made on keeping the VX brand

Editor’s Note: The story has been updated to include a quote from Alaska COO and President Ben Minicucci to clarify the company’s plans to achieve a single operating certificate remain unchanged.

June 15, 2016
By Nancy Trott

What does the future hold for the Virgin America brand if Air Group acquires Virgin America?

In a news story by The Associated Press Wednesday, CEO Brad Tilden was quoted saying that one consideration was to operate the Alaska and Virgin America brands as two different products within Air Group.


Sangita Woerner
As Alaska and Virgin America prepare to merge, the future of the Virgin America brand after any merger remains one of the biggest questions, and at this time, no decisions have been made.

Wednesday’s story from the AP wasn’t saying anything new. In a post on the Alaska Airlines blog on April 7, Sangita Woerner, vice president of marketing, said Alaska has great respect for the Virgin America brand and Alaska taking time to understand it better.

“What specifically might we incorporate? Honestly, I don’t yet know. But what I can tell you is that we will be examining each of those elements closely and thoughtfully over the coming months and years as we work to understand Virgin America’s customers and their needs and why they love their airline,” Woerner said at the time.

While Alaska’s leaders explore options for the Virgin brand and experience in the future, plans to achieve a single operating certificate remain unchanged. “We are still driving to achieve one single operating certificate by January 2018,” said Alaska President and COO, Ben Minicucci.

“We’re going to take the time to look at the many different options,” said Woerner.
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No. Just laying the ground work and pretending to not know what they're going to do. Look out for the VX whipsaw coming to a base near you.
Just taking a lesson from the Jet A merger. Angle Lake told the pilots if they didn't agree to a concessionary contract, they'd shrink AS and expand JA.

Get ready for more of the same. A leopard can't change his spots.
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Just taking a lesson from the Jet A merger. Angle Lake told the pilots if they didn't agree to a concessionary contract, they'd shrink AS and expand JA.

Get ready for more of the same. A leopard can't change his spots.
We, as pilots take these sort of developments/considerations personally since it is our career/livelihood and future on the line.

We must remember that corporate America (even despite some mgmt's ramblings about all being family/one team) just see the dollars/cents required to make the plane move. Nothing more, nothing less.

Best of luck to the AS pilots.
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Clarification came out on Virgin Alaska's World that they are still seeking SOC.
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Can't whipsaw us if we become one united group!
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Brad Tilden used Skywest to whipsaw Horizon, don't think for a second he won't use Virgin to whipsaw you too. The merger will be completed after you agree to concessions or halting any contract improvements. Good luck.
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