KIGECA97531

One has to wonder if we could even pretend to keep up 10% growth for another 10 years. There aren't enough underserved airports left in this country to maintain 10% growth for 5 years. Remember, these new bases and new routes are also shifting flying away from Florida and the west coast, only a small portion is actual growth. Mexico? Maybe if they do it right, but my bet is we fly revenue to the resorts we already serve with charters. 10% growth also assumes we can find affordable used jets and get pilots, with no economic disasters. I know a lot of guys want to guzzle this kool aid they are pouring with the grow our way out of stagnation stuff but if you look at the reality of that, it's a long shot. This airline is like a pyramid scheme, and anyone who comes in is going to stay on the bottom. The ones at the top will keep raking it in and telling those below to keep sucking it up.

SladeTin

So very true! The kool aid is real strong around here for some. There’s virtually no chance at continually growing by 10% every year for all the factors you mentioned and many more. With the way the bottom portion of the seniority list is treated here, I can not in good faith recommend anyone coming here. Maybe if you are that perfect candidate that lives in GRR, DSM, or ABE it MIGHT work out ok for you. Otherwise you are signing on to a lengthy period of disappointment where you will continuously be frustrated with how your schedule and QOL is beaten down over and over again for no good reason.

LoFly

Starting 2 day trips out of the bigger bases would fix many seniority issues, help the few commuters we have here and help the company to grow without the need of extra gates or 100 micro bases.. anybody up there reading... Just sayin...

akulahunter

Just as a curiosity, how long have you guys been here? It seems like looking at the company's history it goes through spurts of growth and stagnation. Did you guys feel this way prior to the last couple of periods of slow/no growth as you do now? Were you here for them?

There are a ton of issues here, I'm assuming the same arguments were made then as now. However, it seems like most of the people who have issues were either hired right before the hiring stopped this time or are junior upgrades who aren't moving up because we paused hiring. The other group that seems to be disgruntled are the ones that were enjoying solid seniority in the traditional large bases and are now stagnant due to the smaller bases opening up.

All of which can be alleviated by a bunch more hiring. As I'm assuming much of the grumblings were tamped down by the last couple of waves of hiring. But who knows... maybe we never hire again after February and the company just fades away...

yakfisher

How’s IND is it really senior on FO and CPT side? Could you have a good QOL
as a new hire in IND?

KIGECA97531

Most junior CA is a 1/16 hire. Most junior FO is a 9/19 hire.