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tailendcharlie 12-23-2022 07:55 PM

There’s going to be a lot of discussion the next few days about where this is headed. Just to be clear about how we got here: It all started to go wrong when they furloughed out of spite, and that was all senior management. And they were told it was a mistake and that it would cost Allegiant in the long run. And it has & we’ve never recovered.

KC135 12-24-2022 04:58 AM

Well there it is, finally. The only bright side now is there should no longer be any fence sitters passing up quick legacy upgrades, you're either updating the apps or going down with the ship. If anyone thought we had an attrition problem just wait until Q1. I bet we see downgrade classes before summer.

9easy 12-24-2022 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by tailendcharlie (Post 3558746)
There’s going to be a lot of discussion the next few days about where this is headed. Just to be clear about how we got here: It all started to go wrong when they furloughed out of spite, and that was all senior management. And they were told it was a mistake and that it would cost Allegiant in the long run. And it has & we’ve never recovered.

Exactly. And there has been zero culpability.

G4slumdod 12-26-2022 06:43 PM

I know we're not supposed to negotiate in public but I will vote yes to anything the company proposes as long as it protects my right to have a beard. Anything short of full beard protection is a no vote for me.

SloNLow 12-26-2022 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by G4slumdod (Post 3560171)
I know we're not supposed to negotiate in public but I will vote yes to anything the company proposes as long as it protects my right to have a beard. Anything short of full beard protection is a no vote for me.

I'll cancel that vote with a YES vote for Alaska pay or better! Oh, too bad there is nothing to vote on, right!?

UltraOrange 12-27-2022 01:16 AM


Originally Posted by SloNLow (Post 3560193)
I'll cancel that vote with a YES vote for Alaska pay or better! Oh, too bad there is nothing to vote on, right!?

I actually like the boat. Although I work on the mid-deck. If its north of Alaska and I don't get to vote on it, I'll be pretty ****y. I live close to port, and don't give two ****s about the folks who have commute.

TangoIndiaMike1 12-28-2022 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by KC135 (Post 3558819)
Well there it is, finally. The only bright side now is there should no longer be any fence sitters passing up quick legacy upgrades, you're either updating the apps or going down with the ship. If anyone thought we had an attrition problem just wait until Q1. I bet we see downgrade classes before summer.

I wonder if bases will close first or downgrades first.

tom11011 12-28-2022 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by TangoIndiaMike1 (Post 3561225)
I wonder if bases will close first or downgrades first.

Closing of the bases will cause downgrades and pilots are displaced. Even our small bases have some senior people.

V2cut 12-28-2022 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by TangoIndiaMike1 (Post 3561225)
I wonder if bases will close first or downgrades first.

Frontier will buy Allegiant first, then bases will close.

Margaritaville 12-29-2022 03:27 AM


Originally Posted by V2cut (Post 3561380)
Frontier will buy Allegiant first, then bases will close.

Didn't we just talk about this?

It's extremely unlikely Frontier is buying Allegiant. It would be a waste of money and is 180 degrees from their growth and business plan. It would not be be worth the trouble of a merger.


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