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Today | 02:37 PM

#3531

AirparkBandit

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new rumor is sy alpa filing tomorrow so no reason to vote no on aip, rip.

Today | 02:38 PM

#3532

tom11011

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Originally Posted by pipercub

Where is this info that shows more dates are available. I have seen nothing from the union that shows that to be true either. Unless the AIP were to fall apart it would me months for them to get back to the table if the pilots voted no.

We have dates for 14, 15 and 18.

Today | 02:43 PM

#3533

Moist

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Jesus, does no one want to see the actual language before picking a side?

The pay rates for 2026 are more or less equal to what we have now with the retention bonus. If the TA sucks and we vote no we're not done negotiating, far from it, and you're not losing money until 2027. This isn't the "best you're gonna get" offer despite what some people will lead you to believe.

Today | 02:50 PM

#3534

Humblepielot

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Originally Posted by captnate702

fine, if you disagree about the leadership then whatever. But you can’t agree with me about SLI arbitration and how much we stand to lose AND say it is poor leadership to give us this deal and that we’d be better off with nothing. Those two opinions are incompatible full stop.

does the deal suck? Of course. Was RJ to blame for everything that happened before January? Maybe, and I won’t argue with you if that’s what you believe.

bit there are facts we can agree on. Where we are today is a sunk cost. We all knew there was no more leverage, that it was lost years ago. The Iran war gave us even less leverage because now management can say that any raise is generous with where we are at with fuel and the NMB will go along with it.

the goal is to not get destroyed at SLI arbitration with SY and these rates do that. Thats what matters.

McCaskill-Bond primarily focuses on career expectations like pre-merger upgrade timelines, equipment and base preferences, longevity, status, and category and not differences in same category pay rates. I don’t understand the push to pass a subpar agreement based on the assumption that the contract would somehow influence our SLI arbitration. Don’t listen to me or any other pilot look into it yourself.

We have a low risk no vote with this offer as it appears to not be substantially different from the current RB accrual.