We shall see. Every TA in history was “going to be rejected”…..until it wasn’t. People talk a big game but have a hard time turning down $$$ at the end of the day.

Delta did.

Definitely not saying it’s impossible. Just that I’ll believe it gets shot down when I see it.

So is Breeze and Allegiant the lowest paid majors now? They share basically the same Airbus rates.

And basically share Envoy E175 rates too... lol. For some reason people still apply...

Here we are. Half done with 2022, summer high season in full swing. We got the crews we got. No contract in sight. Crickets from MG now. He sounded so giggly on the investor call, batting his eyes at AR. It was so cute. I hope no one made career decisions because MG was playing coochie-coo with the union.

It's a tough call. We all know a straight up 40% pay raise, 16% DC, 100% DH, age 65 LTD, and 5 hour min day pay, and it would get signed off by the pilots by a good %. Deal could be made in 15 minutes.

The union is laser focused on work rules, which is a very uphill task, high risk game. Hopefully we get both.

That’s a hard no from me without fixing dozens of issues with scheduling, reserve, vacation, etc.


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That's the baseline IMO. I think if we don't get at least that, we won't have FOs (10 year CAs will soon be jr FO lineholders). Personally I'd be back at the regionals (I think Envoy is hiring with a better contract than that).

That doesn't even get me to yes.

It’s a good to know you will never be granted the opportunity to vote on such a thin pay rate centric contract.