New Hire question
 

Hello everybody, new hire with a Dec 5th class date.
About an hour away from ABE. I know this may have been discussed earlier but I wanted to see what’s ABE looking like now.
Will I be able to get it out of training?
How long would I be on reserve if I get ABE?
How is the flying like on reserve and later on as a line holder?
Appreciate all your inputs & thanks in advance!

Reserve versus line holder honestly doesn't matter much for QOL especially in a small base not in FL. You may have a bit of a shorter leash but you'll prob work a whole lot less (which may be good being 1 hour away) and make just a little less, especially on 1st year pay. Time to line is unpredictable, depends how many people quit, if more aircraft make their way into the base, and if the senior FOs bid reserve. For November the #1 FO bid reserve. I'd be more concerned about the potential for involv TDY as the plug but I don't think it's too common out of ABE.

As far as time to get the base, zero spots in ABE were offered to the October 31st class. There is one ABE FO vacancy on the current vacancy whose results will be used for both the Nov 21 and Dec 5th class. I see that one spot possibly making its way to new hires, but very high chance that if it does, someone in the Nov 21 class or senior to you in the Dec 5th class gets it, in which case it will be about 2-4 months *minimum* post training for you to get your base. What if 4 people in the Nov 21 class want ABE? It's definitely playing Russian roulette...you could end up waiting 6 or 12 months. Thats how long some guys have been having to wait for IND, or TYS, or AUS, which all used to be junior bases. There are currently no training delays whatsoever, so with future vacancies running several months out you *will* commute if you don't instantly get your base, and it will be very rough especially since much of the commute time will be over spring break and summer when reserves often only get 10 days off. Run a hypothetical commute to BLI, which 3 pilots are faced with in the near future looking at the seniority list.

For reference, only 1 of 13 new hires in the last class got their base of choice (ATW) out the gate. I can't think of a time it's ever been that low. This statistic should be very concerning to anyone reading.

It's looking good, the base is doing well, it has been consistently junior, so you could definitely get it out of training, and get off reserve in a year or so. But it's only 12 people so if just by bad luck 5 new hires ahead of you wanted it, the wait could be much longer. That's how it is here with all the bases, but generally ABE has been consistently junior as opposed to like, Knoxville or Asheville.

You won't get called much on reserve there, and when you do it will likely be for an easy day trip.

Thank you so much for your inputs. Looks like I’ll have to wait it out for a while before I get assigned ABE. QUOTE=flydiamond;3529016]Reserve versus line holder honestly doesn't matter much for QOL especially in a small base not in FL. You may have a bit of a shorter leash but you'll prob work a whole lot less (which may be good being 1 hour away) and make just a little less, especially on 1st year pay. Time to line is unpredictable, depends how many people quit, if more aircraft make their way into the base, and if the senior FOs bid reserve. For November the #1 FO bid reserve. I'd be more concerned about the potential for involv TDY as the plug but I don't think it's too common out of ABE.

As far as time to get the base, zero spots in ABE were offered to the October 31st class. There is one ABE FO vacancy on the current vacancy whose results will be used for both the Nov 21 and Dec 5th class. I see that one spot possibly making its way to new hires, but very high chance that if it does, someone in the Nov 21 class or senior to you in the Dec 5th class gets it, in which case it will be about 2-4 months *minimum* post training for you to get your base. What if 4 people in the Nov 21 class want ABE? It's definitely playing Russian roulette...you could end up waiting 6 or 12 months. Thats how long some guys have been having to wait for IND, or TYS, or AUS, which all used to be junior bases. There are currently no training delays whatsoever, so with future vacancies running several months out you *will* commute if you don't instantly get your base, and it will be very rough especially since much of the commute time will be over spring break and summer when reserves often only get 10 days off. Run a hypothetical commute to BLI, which 3 pilots are faced with in the near future looking at the seniority list.

For reference, only 1 of 13 new hires in the last class got their base of choice (ATW) out the gate. I can't think of a time it's ever been that low. This statistic should be very concerning to anyone reading.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the heads up. Appreciate it!
QUOTE=Squeakygreaser;3529020]It's looking good, the base is doing well, it has been consistently junior, so you could definitely get it out of training, and get off reserve in a year or so. But it's only 12 people so if just by bad luck 5 new hires ahead of you wanted it, the wait could be much longer. That's how it is here with all the bases, but generally ABE has been consistently junior as opposed to like, Knoxville or Asheville.

You won't get called much on reserve there, and when you do it will likely be for an easy day trip.[/QUOTE]

See you in class.

Are you doing the fingerprints at Clearwater on the 17th by any chance? It would be nice to connect before the class!
QUOTE=MilDriver;3529384]See you in class.[/QUOTE]

See y’all in class. I’m hoping for BNA.

Thanks a ton everybody for the headups . Appreciate all your information !

Is BNA attainable out of training? I have heard some people have gotten it out of training but others have been waiting months to get it who have been flying the line at other bases... So which is it? Thanks for any info and I'm excited to meet you all and get started!