This EBoard will focus on the CURRENT CBA negotiations. They will lock down a TA most likely by or before the summer. JCBA negotiations are a year to two away. It's why it's imperative that we lock a TA down NOW. The days of holding out for 30% unstacking or something else of that nature be dealt with during JCBA negotiations. Anyone that was focused or holding out for Delta +10 on day trips, it's over. Time to ******* or get off the pot.

We will have a TA soon. Mark my words.

 

I hope you’re right. But I fear Unterseher is going to get in the way and I don’t trust the IBT leadership at the national level to do anything to stop him.

the last thing Unterseher or anybody at the Airline division, national level, etc. want is to let Allegiant pilots vote on a TA. How do I know this? Because that is how we get screwed and everything Unterseher and his lackeys have done is screw us. They would rather flex their muscles in what’s app and with the media than lets us choose our own fate by voting on a TA.

Unterseher’s advice is probably wait for O Brien to call in a favor with Trump and get us released - Unterseher is that stupid. If he gets in the way then this acquisition a gonna delay a new contract for at least three more years.

Unterseher will do what management wants: continue to demand 30% unstack, delta pay + day trips. Management will gladly wait til 2030 to give us a JCBA.

I hope you’re right Chapi and we get a deal before summer, even if it’s peanuts because that would raise the floor for the real fight and the JCBA.

 

GU is facing his IBT getting voted out as soon as the SY deal closes. He needs to save face now and big time.

 

Theres nothing special about this Eboard, and they are still under the thumb of IBT and GU. I hope they have the balls and ability to do what is right and sign something soon knowing that regardless of what they do they will be voted out because this group is sick of the IBTs sham politics and corruption.

 

So is SC moving their HQ to LAS?

I hope Allegiant backfills. Anyone over the age of 30 that works at SC HQ will most likely not relocate.
Sure they may have their MSP Crew Base, but those with roots in MSP are pretty much hosed.

This industry, Jesus Christ.

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Typical way it plays out, after observing many mergers over many years...

Acquired HQ goes away within a couple-three years. A handful of employees will get an offer to transfer to the acquiring HQ city. Sucks for most of the long-time, rooted HQ office people.

Some seniority list pilots in training/management will get a shot at keeping those roles post-merger. Not a good idea to go into Iraq and fire all of the government employees just because they're Sunni.

If there is a lot of fleet-specific support (sims, training, fleet office) in MSP (I assume there must be) that will keep a few more employees for at least a while longer.

Significant crew base remains, but likely smaller. Less significant or overlap bases might close, but that doesn't appear to be the case for MSP. Also depends on what does G4 want to do with this? At a quick glance it looks like the routes and hubs are complimentary.

 

What if management has other ideas? What if they plan to push the neg back tell Joint Neg contract? Would not seem the NC or EXCO would not have any way of changing that out come.

 

Sorry, business especially the airline world does not work that way. Corp will be moved to Vegas. Much of the supporting departments like will also OCC and such. At the end of the day there will be less seats for those holding similar positions some will not have a position after. Especially if not wanting to leave msp. It sucks been and know a lot of people that got short end of the stick after these.

 

everybody should ask: if given the choice, would Maury buy another airline if one of the benefits is to keep the lowest pilot costs in the industry?

Every pilot here would answer yes to that question.

result: don’t expect anything quick from management.

Even if RJ is reasonable and tries to get some watered-down pitiful TA for us to vote on, management probably wouldn’t even give us brochure rates. I bet management would reluctantly offer SY current rates just to save face and keep the NMB away.

answer is we are looking at JCBA and a new contract in 2029 at the earliest.

 

I do not disagree, that is why the question was to Captainbfv. He seems to think his new dream team is going to work some magic and get some kind of deal prior to the deal closing. I agree with you and think more likely the company will stall tell the joint deal which puts this all back 2 to 4 years.

Will be interesting to see how many current G4 people think it will be worth the continued wait