Allegiant Air
07-10-2015, 07:38 PM
#3151
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Originally Posted by G4er
Yep, just a get rich scheme. Like every other airline, Bring passengers where they want to go and collect their money. The great thing is the company doesn't even have to invest a cent into the operation as you say. The airplanes just magically appear and the FAA lets them fly, everything behind the scenes is free. A big Ponzi scheme that counts on another investor to bail out the last one because the company isn't making anything on any of their flights.
And yes, I read your posts. I'm just pointing out the fact that you say the company makes money on every flight but it is also a Ponzi Scheme.
Peace
And yes, I read your posts. I'm just pointing out the fact that you say the company makes money on every flight but it is also a Ponzi Scheme.
Peace
Never said Allegiant was a Ponzi scheme. Again, the post said:
"This is no more an investment than a building rented out for a Ponzi scheme". The comparison being leasing Airbus to renting the building: neither were intended for the long term.
Did "every other airline" suffer a major accident and shut down because they contracted out their maintenance to the cheapest vendors available? Too bad there's not enough dough left over after the dividends for Allegiant to pay for quality maintenance. You think they'd learn but hey, it wasn't their fault. Approaching 50 engine failures and shutdowns, multiple air returns and emergencies declared almost daily. Yes, good thing the FAA is doing their due diligence. The only thing they've done was go after the pilots when the union pointed out maintenance deficiencies. Oh wait, they DID shut down our training department. Never mind.
Does "every other airline" get fined by the DOT for deliberately scamming their passengers with false advertising and deceitful sales tactics? Constantly selling seats and not being able to deliver because of configuration or equipment changes, breaking up families with small children...wheel chair passengers in the back (safety first!) yeah, Delta does all that too. What about selling travel 'insurance' only to credit (not reimburse) future flights? Google that. http://wfla.com/2015/07/08/allegiants-insurance-program-frustrates-tampa-bay-customers/
You're right, just like every other airline (travel company?). Keep guzzlin' the cool-aid man.
Last edited by tyler durden; 07-10-2015 at 08:09 PM.
07-10-2015, 08:24 PM
#3152
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Originally Posted by G4er
Yep, just a get rich scheme. Like every other airline, Bring passengers where they want to go and collect their money. The great thing is the company doesn't even have to invest a cent into the operation as you say. The airplanes just magically appear and the FAA lets them fly, everything behind the scenes is free. A big Ponzi scheme that counts on another investor to bail out the last one because the company isn't making anything on any of their flights.
And yes, I read your posts. I'm just pointing out the fact that you say the company makes money on every flight but it is also a Ponzi Scheme.
Peace
And yes, I read your posts. I'm just pointing out the fact that you say the company makes money on every flight but it is also a Ponzi Scheme.
Peace
Smells like him or an office errand boy....
07-10-2015, 09:16 PM
#3153
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Many airlines lease many of their aircraft. It reflects nothing about the companies choice of investment. I came across some financial docs from United and I believe half of their fleet was leased. I think the fact that there are added aircraft every year is more of an indicator of planned investment. Now that investment can't stop there. I really don't understand why management doesn't just give a bit. I think even a small show of good faith would go a long way. I hope the group stays strong and forces something.
07-10-2015, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by clunkerdrv
Hey MG! How's Allegiant running? You got a good gig man, you got a good gig! These are good problems to have!
Smells like him or an office errand boy....
Smells like him or an office errand boy....
Greeeeeezeball.
07-11-2015, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Many airlines lease many of their aircraft. It reflects nothing about the companies choice of investment. I came across some financial docs from United and I believe half of their fleet was leased.
Are these aircraft leased from a company that Jeff Smisek owns?
07-11-2015, 11:27 AM
#3156
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Many airlines lease many of their aircraft. It reflects nothing about the companies choice of investment. I came across some financial docs from United and I believe half of their fleet was leased. I think the fact that there are added aircraft every year is more of an indicator of planned investment. Now that investment can't stop there. I really don't understand why management doesn't just give a bit. I think even a small show of good faith would go a long way. I hope the group stays strong and forces something.
However, do most airlines lease their planes from a company that is owned by that airlines CEO? I very highly doubt it.
When Allegiant pays an investor dividend, guess who gets most of the money? When Allegaint pays the rent for that new headquarters building (which is either the third or fourth hq building in the time I was there), guess who gets the money? When Allegiant buys fuel in SFB and PIE, guess who gets the money?
All that business is done with companies owned by MG.
07-11-2015, 12:42 PM
#3157
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buy the stock and enjoy the ride. that discounted stock purchased on may 1 has netted me 45% so far at this time. follow the money.
07-11-2015, 05:19 PM
#3158
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Originally Posted by EngFail
There you go again Sir. I mean g4er. You lost? Management’s pilot hate room is just done the hall. By the way, what color is your hat? Happen to catch that Delta vote Sir? We’re comin for ya.. Times they be a changin. You wont contain/control the B.S. message in the age of instant info.
Sir….
Sir….
I just call out the absurd remarks made on this thread. There's real stuff to complain about without going off into la la land. You tell people to stay at a regional... But you won't leave here for a regional ....
Hypocritical? Is that the right word? What would you call it?
07-12-2015, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by G4er
You never did answer what regional you want to hang out at tell a Legacy calls you. You did however get the mod to delete your reply which was very enlightening about you, not me.
I just call out the absurd remarks made on this thread. There's real stuff to complain about without going off into la la land. You tell people to stay at a regional... But you won't leave here for a regional ....
Hypocritical? Is that the right word? What would you call it?
I just call out the absurd remarks made on this thread. There's real stuff to complain about without going off into la la land. You tell people to stay at a regional... But you won't leave here for a regional ....
Hypocritical? Is that the right word? What would you call it?
I mean g4er management tool. Sir. How’s richmans race car doin? Gotta great hat you want to sell me?
07-12-2015, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by EngFail
Stricken from the record but not from their hearts and minds. Get some baby! I mean g4er management tool. Sir. How’s richmans race car doin? Gotta great hat you want to sell me?
I mean g4er management tool. Sir. How’s richmans race car doin? Gotta great hat you want to sell me?
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