New Hire FO was a 747 CA in a previous life.

Wow! Upgrade as a new hire?? in an MD-80?! Gutsy move, Mav!
This company has the worst maintenance, worst destinations, worst training (FAA closed down our training department), worst support, worst...EVERYTHING.

Allegiant is very poorly managed and staffed. It has a very consistent habit of setting up captains for failure, then firing them. I can think of 4 captains recently fired from 1 base alone! Better bring your 'A' game, Allegiant may have cut new hire FOs some slack in the past, but street/NH captains are bringing a whole new reality and will dictate a dramatically elevated standard of performance. Now that every FO is a potential NH captain, I would expect the new elevated standards to apply to all. I'm no check airman, but I would be very hesitant to sign off a potential (unknown) left-seater without a ton of scrutiny. Expect pink rates to sky-rocket. You might meet some of our former captains in the unemployment line.

Best of luck rolling the dice. I'm told it's tough finding work after Allegiant has spit you out.

I won't matter.

It should speak volumes that FOs that have waited for years to upgrade are bypassing. This isn't one or two that want to hang on to a quality of life over upgrade. It's more like 95%.

What do you suppose they know about things around here that helped them make that decision? It wasn't because they don't want to be a captain... it's because this company will give you no support and crucify you the minute you don't catch one of the mistakes THEY make.

One brand new captain recently refused to take an airplane into Roanoke because the auto spoilers were inop. How do you suppose that conversation went? If you guessed that dispatch questioned whether that captain should have ever upgraded you'd be right. Never mind that they were already an MD80 captain at a previous airline and made the right call on this.

It's a daily event to have the wrong flight attendant on your paperwork. No alternate when one is required. The wrong logbook for your airplane. Improper sign off of an MEL. Maintenance control asking which MEL they should use. Brand new rampers that don't know a single callout. Ops Check Normal for the majority of repeat write ups.

Don't forget reserve here is so unbearable it's better to take the 50% paycut and stay an FO. The phone rings and you have 90 minutes to get to the airport and deadhead to another base. When are you coming back? Nobody knows. 10 days off a month. Can't select morning or afternoon reserve and it doesn't matter anyhow because they will call and change it the day before.

Think that one over.

Yikes, suddenly my cr@ppy charter company flying job doesn't seem so bad after all. Thanks for all the advise guys, i was looking at Allegiant but after reading this stuff, fugetaboutit.

You are wise beyond your years.

And as soon as said ex-747 captain sees how things are done here, he will bolt. Those who have experienced good training and working conditions in the past do not last long at this company.

Hey Einstein, you know they voted in Teamsters right ? Not that I'm a Teamster fan, but I just can't let an opportunity to challenge your 70 IQ go by the wayside. BTW, does Trenton have jet ways yet Richard?

Entirely different local. Not that it makes too much of a difference. Don't you have some food stamps to go collect? Or is it your turn to give the BJs in HQ? :cool:

Never had to go on food stamps when I was on the street, but when your POS airline folds in less than 2 years let me know how it is!