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Xbone 08-27-2014 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by eagleatr (Post 1714121)
Also, being on reserve in PIE doesn't mean you will just cover PIE

Florida is just one city according to crew scheduling.

Packrat 08-27-2014 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by eagleatr (Post 1714121)
They will also get you a plane ticket and give you a scenic tour of the US as they send you out chasing broken airplanes. Or, they might buy you a ticket to pick up a plane from heavy maintenance, which is always an exciting flight.

I heard they hire a ferrying company to perform these flights.

Swedish Blender 08-27-2014 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by dawgdriver (Post 1714098)
I believe there's a place in management for you! When can you start?

Such a witty retort.
If you want to hide behind "I'm not a test pilot" fine. All aircraft performance numbers were demonstrated by company pilots. If they're not safe, take it to the FAA/Boeing. You should probably limit yourself to half weight, half crosswind, and double the amount of runway needed. Where does it end? If someone isn't comfortable with the performance of the airplane, maybe they're not ready to be captain.

I mean everyone is just a line pilot, not test pilot. I believe I can operate Flight Sim within the performance limits though so I'm good.

@EagleATR- don't worry about the dispatcher calling you names, your airplane does it for you. Yours is different though. You had numbers that said otherwise. The ROA case was about being comfortable.

labbats 08-28-2014 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 1714321)
Such a witty retort.
If you want to hide behind "I'm not a test pilot" fine. All aircraft performance numbers were demonstrated by company pilots. If they're not safe, take it to the FAA/Boeing. You should probably limit yourself to half weight, half crosswind, and double the amount of runway needed. Where does it end? If someone isn't comfortable with the performance of the airplane, maybe they're not ready to be captain.

I mean everyone is just a line pilot, not test pilot. I believe I can operate Flight Sim within the performance limits though so I'm good.

@EagleATR- don't worry about the dispatcher calling you names, your airplane does it for you. Yours is different though. You had numbers that said otherwise. The ROA case was about being comfortable.

Who exactly are you and why do you care?

You have no idea how many times we've flown questionable aircraft into questionable conditions. How often dispatch here is negligent. How much internal fortitude it takes to stand up against the amount of pressure they put on you here. Yet there you go pushing your case time and again.

Either you're from another airline and actually are a dispatcher or pilot and you decided to add your two cents again and again to a company you have no concept of or you are a part of the machine here at Allegiant. Either way I don't find you nearly as important as you do.

eagleatr 08-28-2014 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1714236)
I heard they hire a ferrying company to perform these flights.

I know they have been using a lot of contract crews to ferry airplanes around. We don't have enough pilots now to cover the regular schedule, let alone have anyone on reserve.

HVYMETALDRVR 08-28-2014 06:49 AM

The current class is 35 remaining, mostly -80. We paid for lodging initially, the company has backed off a little though. Looks like MIA and LAS new hires are both getting hotels w/ rental cars for sim training. We're also on full 70 hr guarantee as well from day 1, no PD.

flyingpuma1 08-28-2014 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by labbats (Post 1714370)
Who exactly are you and why do you care?

You have no idea how many times we've flown questionable aircraft into questionable conditions. How often dispatch here is negligent. How much internal fortitude it takes to stand up against the amount of pressure they put on you here. Yet there you go pushing your case time and again.

Either you're from another airline and actually are a dispatcher or pilot and you decided to add your two cents again and again to a company you have no concept of or you are a part of the machine here at Allegiant. Either way I don't find you nearly as important as you do.

+1 I think this guy made the right call, I would rather have my family on a plane with someone who is more cautious. I also bet that there was another mel (or two).......

EALOFFSPRING 08-29-2014 07:50 AM

Allegiant- For line holders and reserves: what is the average monthly credit for each? Is it normal to exceed the 81 hour threshold, or does the company avoid that so as not to pay "overtime"? How many are awarded less than guarantee?

EALOFFSPRING 08-29-2014 07:54 AM

And how many days off/month for line holders?

MrObvious 08-29-2014 08:07 AM

Any allegiant people able to give a pie - sbn load check for this afternoon (friday)


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