Since no other department in the company thinks more than 5 minutes ahead, how could they expect the pilots to do so?

If we didn't, the place would grind to a halt. Weren't we supposed to just be sitting in the seat, drinking coffee, and reading a checklist by now?

True except for the fact they could not sell them anymore.

That's the beauty of Allegiant. The pilots will never be accused of a job action, because we don't HAVE to. Just stop propping up the operation and it topples by itself.

Sad but true and a valid strategy.

Unfortunate, but true. But it does leave quite a hole in the higher capacity, long range routes. The 739 doesn't quite cut it.

It cuts it on the vast majority of the routes 757's fly at a far lower cost. Cost is king. Most airlines seem to plan on keeping some 757's for the few routes the 900 can't handle until something better shows up.

I will just about guarantee that by the time something better shows up, most here will be beyond caring.

I didn't read all 11 pages of this thread, but I saw this and felt it needed to be addressed. This is a statement that shows a fair amount of ignorance of labor law, especially the RLA. Having been on strike, I speak from experience.

I have no doubt that management is going to play as many games as possible, since this is a first contract, but a strike is, at best, several years away for a number of reasons. Realistically, it's not likely to happen, especially given that Allegiant has a sizeable presence in some politically important states (Florida and Arizona). I'm not saying it can't happen, I just don't think it will happen.

More than likely, the company will drag this out for 2-3 years, and then when the NMB gets serious about initiating the cooling off period, they will finally put a serious offer on the table.


To the OP, this is easy: go to Allegiant. It will be MUCH easier to get a job at a major once you've flown mainline equipment. Further, and this may be the most important thing, Allegiant controls its own product. RAH does not. Don't underestimate the importance of that.

This statement is false. The majority of our passengers do not originate from these two states. The Arizona side is a small, stagnated part of an already minimal presence on the west coast. You ask any average Phoenician about g4, they don’t know who you’re talking about. G4 was not issued any major slots in critical city’s, no EAS either. G4 doesn’t move the DOT needle. No congressman is going to be phoning the DOT asking why he can’t get back home. In this sense the corporate mantra will work in our favor, “were a travel company” is more accurate from an essential air carrier standpoint.

G4 is also a bad neighbor airline; local Florida news is constantly reporting passenger frustration stories, i.e. our melt down last winter, was all over the local airways. Passenger’s stuck for days, holidays ruined. Have you heard of our numerous air returns? Local Florida news has.

Politically important? Not g4. Our flight attendants have gone before the NMB previous and are becoming very familiar with our emt’s strategy. NMB has made statements recently reflecting their concern for g4’s lack of cooperation. Everyone here is familiar with the RLA, we can read too. Will we strike tomorrow, of course not. Will it take several years, I don’t think so.