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#2391
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Makes me wonder whether we should burn history books. 😂
Joking aside, I agree, but when testimony is consistent and coming from several sources, (including one who still speaks to AL), it becomes credible. Not sure why it's inconceivable that a relatively young and successful entrepreneur would want to get out from under MG and blaze his own trail. His non-compete clause expires this year and has (allegedly...) rented office space in Houston, aiming to start his own venture.
Joking aside, I agree, but when testimony is consistent and coming from several sources, (including one who still speaks to AL), it becomes credible. Not sure why it's inconceivable that a relatively young and successful entrepreneur would want to get out from under MG and blaze his own trail. His non-compete clause expires this year and has (allegedly...) rented office space in Houston, aiming to start his own venture.
#2392
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That's the main problem with this thread. You have no idea if what you are saying is true but you come here to suggest it anyway. Just like many of the posts here. Filled with gossip and hearsay and third hand information.
#2393
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Yeah, much better to come here every day and ***** and whine and do nothing constructive to make things better.
#2394
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Many of the 'whiners' on here have tried everything they could, through every channel available to effect positive change for the pilots and the company. Many have been here for a long time, volunteered with in house committees and boards, all of which were forcefully disbanded when the new management came along in 2011. It's quite telling how many have departed since then, both management and pilots, voluntary or other wise, due to the carnage that ensued. This was a great place to work and many lament the loss, especially those who took ownership and really cared. Whatever the case, it helps to understand the background. The tone reflects a frustration that newer folks might find strange or offensive. In the end, most come to understand it.
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#2395
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Joined: Mar 2016
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Gentlemen,
Would anyone who currently works at Allegiant willing to share some info in regards to which bases in Florida fly the most, have the A320 and what would be an average flying schedule for a newly hired FO.
All inputs will be greatly appreciated.
Fly safe.
Would anyone who currently works at Allegiant willing to share some info in regards to which bases in Florida fly the most, have the A320 and what would be an average flying schedule for a newly hired FO.
All inputs will be greatly appreciated.
Fly safe.
#2396
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Joined: Aug 2011
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From: Hoping for any position
Average about 80 hours a month holding a line. If you are on reserve min guarantee is all you will get.
#2397
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From: FO
Flight time will vary, some months are more than others, but the last post was pretty accurate... if you're on reserve, you won't break guarantee unless you pick up on your days off. If you hold a line (mixed, or all flying) it shouldn't be too hard to get it to the low to mid 80's with some maneuvering and maybe 1 or 2 day-off pick-ups. Don't except much more than min days off until you're at least mid-way up the seniority. I could be wrong there, but expect min days off for a while, and be pleasantly surprised when you're awarded more.
The hard part may be getting the airbus in training. It seems that most of the new hire classes have been going all MD-80 lately, and we have a lot of guys that are coming out of seat lock on the 80 and bidding over. That said, this all changes literally overnight so it's hard to give solid expectations. Airbus usually goes senior within a class with both fleet types available, and typically has been awarded to people over 30-35 yrs old. New hire classes are usually guys on their 2nd or 3rd gig and in their early-mid-late 30's and up (some younger as well).
If you get the 80 and/or a base you didn't want, don't stress it too much, there's enough movement here that moving around and getting to where you want to be usually occurs pretty quick (a year to 2 years at most, unless you're a commuter and always will be). I usually tell people to just plan for a sh*#ty first year, and it'll improve from there. 'Cause even if you do get exactly what you want right out of training, chances are your schedule will be abysmal for the first year, and/or some TDY mixed in there.
Questions/comments, feel free to call/text... I'm on habitual reserve so I have far too much time on my hands...
-Alex-
cel: 484-661-7716
#2398
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Orlando (SFB), Punta Gorda (PGD), and St. Pete (PIE) are the largest (I'm not sure if PGD or PIE is larger so I just grouped them together) bases by a long stretch. In fact, the only bases larger in the whole system are LAS and possibly IWA. I'm not sure exactly how many planes that means per base but it's gotta be around 10 or more (both airframes combined). FLL is the other Florida base, all airbus, but I think is only 2 or 3 airframes and 10-15 crews. The airbus is most senior in SFB, and then PIE, possibly a year or more to hold FO in those bases if not awarded it right out of training. PGD and FLL you should be able to get within a year (or right out of training). The company has mentioned in some of their conference calls that a JAX base will come, most likely by summer of 2017 and most likely an 80 base to start, no idea how big.
Flight time will vary, some months are more than others, but the last post was pretty accurate... if you're on reserve, you won't break guarantee unless you pick up on your days off. If you hold a line (mixed, or all flying) it shouldn't be too hard to get it to the low to mid 80's with some maneuvering and maybe 1 or 2 day-off pick-ups. Don't except much more than min days off until you're at least mid-way up the seniority. I could be wrong there, but expect min days off for a while, and be pleasantly surprised when you're awarded more.
The hard part may be getting the airbus in training. It seems that most of the new hire classes have been going all MD-80 lately, and we have a lot of guys that are coming out of seat lock on the 80 and bidding over. That said, this all changes literally overnight so it's hard to give solid expectations. Airbus usually goes senior within a class with both fleet types available, and typically has been awarded to people over 30-35 yrs old. New hire classes are usually guys on their 2nd or 3rd gig and in their early-mid-late 30's and up (some younger as well).
If you get the 80 and/or a base you didn't want, don't stress it too much, there's enough movement here that moving around and getting to where you want to be usually occurs pretty quick (a year to 2 years at most, unless you're a commuter and always will be). I usually tell people to just plan for a sh*#ty first year, and it'll improve from there. 'Cause even if you do get exactly what you want right out of training, chances are your schedule will be abysmal for the first year, and/or some TDY mixed in there.
Questions/comments, feel free to call/text... I'm on habitual reserve so I have far too much time on my hands...
-Alex-
cel: 484-661-7716
Flight time will vary, some months are more than others, but the last post was pretty accurate... if you're on reserve, you won't break guarantee unless you pick up on your days off. If you hold a line (mixed, or all flying) it shouldn't be too hard to get it to the low to mid 80's with some maneuvering and maybe 1 or 2 day-off pick-ups. Don't except much more than min days off until you're at least mid-way up the seniority. I could be wrong there, but expect min days off for a while, and be pleasantly surprised when you're awarded more.
The hard part may be getting the airbus in training. It seems that most of the new hire classes have been going all MD-80 lately, and we have a lot of guys that are coming out of seat lock on the 80 and bidding over. That said, this all changes literally overnight so it's hard to give solid expectations. Airbus usually goes senior within a class with both fleet types available, and typically has been awarded to people over 30-35 yrs old. New hire classes are usually guys on their 2nd or 3rd gig and in their early-mid-late 30's and up (some younger as well).
If you get the 80 and/or a base you didn't want, don't stress it too much, there's enough movement here that moving around and getting to where you want to be usually occurs pretty quick (a year to 2 years at most, unless you're a commuter and always will be). I usually tell people to just plan for a sh*#ty first year, and it'll improve from there. 'Cause even if you do get exactly what you want right out of training, chances are your schedule will be abysmal for the first year, and/or some TDY mixed in there.
Questions/comments, feel free to call/text... I'm on habitual reserve so I have far too much time on my hands...
-Alex-
cel: 484-661-7716
Great! Thanks Alex !
#2399
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Can anybody tell me how senior IWA is on the bus and on the 80? Any recommendations on which plane to bid for to get to IWA quickest while maintaining the best QOL possible? I know that's somewhat subjective, but I'm all ears for opinions. Thanks.
#2400
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Well they have more MD80s than buses so I would suspect that would give you more options for schedule etc. And when they convert all bus at the base you would get priority over someone out of base. Also, if you are trying to stay close to IWA, if you cant get that then LAS is still all 80 for the foreseeable future so that would keep you close until you could transfer over.
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