Allegiant Air
11-05-2018, 10:53 PM
#5961
Voice of Reason
Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: Uncomfortable
Posts: 481
Originally Posted by ecam
Do you fly with a lot of these people who were hired in the last 2-3 years? Most of them left a cushy job as a regional captain and took a huge pay cut. They were sold they would be back in the left seat in a few years making even more money and be home every night. Instead they are looking at no movement, no upgrades indefinitely, 5+ years after that to hold a line as a captain and getting TDY'd or stuck in a base they don't want. They feel lied to and swindled.
Then they see the company getting out bid for airplanes we were sure to get and instead investing in go karts and hotels. That huge swimming pool! Why should they believe anything the company says at this point when they have been lied to at every turn and every big airline is hiring? These people are about to exodus and who is going to replace them when we start hiring again after they spread the word?
Your optimism is admirable. Maybe you're that ray of sunshine guy. Not everyone shares it. I say it all the time, but I'm glad I retire soon.
Then they see the company getting out bid for airplanes we were sure to get and instead investing in go karts and hotels. That huge swimming pool! Why should they believe anything the company says at this point when they have been lied to at every turn and every big airline is hiring? These people are about to exodus and who is going to replace them when we start hiring again after they spread the word?
Your optimism is admirable. Maybe you're that ray of sunshine guy. Not everyone shares it. I say it all the time, but I'm glad I retire soon.
I am optimistic because I am in control of how I react to what is thrown at me. *****ing and whining about everything that happens to you doesn't do anything but make you and everyone around you miserable. I have been in MUCH worse working conditions for a hell of a lot longer than 6-8 hours. Give me a break... Also, please tell me what regional job is "cushy."
As for the Ray of Sunshine guy, not it... And although I think his politics are leaning the wrong way, he has a good attitude and deals with the daily stuff they way it should be dealt with. No one here is even on the bottom rung of the crappy job ladder. If you think your life is crappy here, feel free to get a real job. If you are miserable here, being home every night, FedEx/Delta money won't make you happy...
11-07-2018, 07:28 AM
#5962
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 390
Originally Posted by ecam
...Then these pilots turn around and brag how much better they are without that heavy wallet under them. It's stupid and self destructive.
...we as a pilot group need to stop this nonsense of tearing each other apart because we disagree with their political beliefs or lifestyle choices. That crap has no place in any cockpit anywhere. Respect your coworkers.
...we as a pilot group need to stop this nonsense of tearing each other apart because we disagree with their political beliefs or lifestyle choices. That crap has no place in any cockpit anywhere. Respect your coworkers.
11-07-2018, 05:37 PM
#5964
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,940
Originally Posted by tomgoodman
Mod warning:
This thread has been going for a long time, but any more political posts, from left or right, will force it to close.
This thread has been going for a long time, but any more political posts, from left or right, will force it to close.
Might as well shut it down and we'll start a new thread. It's not a contest on how long it runs.
11-07-2018, 05:55 PM
#5965
Voice of Reason
Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: Uncomfortable
Posts: 481
Originally Posted by tomgoodman
Mod warning:
This thread has been going for a long time, but any more political posts, from left or right, will force it to close.
This thread has been going for a long time, but any more political posts, from left or right, will force it to close.
11-08-2018, 08:42 AM
#5967
Banned
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 733
Originally Posted by Beretta01
Everyone lost their minds because I called #rayofsunshine a liberal(as if it was a secret).
It was all removed by the hall monitor, as i'm sure this will be too. Whether Beretta01 reported it or not is unknown at this time. I think it's only fair to call him out on bringing politics to the cockpit again if he's going to post it again.
11-08-2018, 09:03 AM
#5968
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,181
Originally Posted by ecam
And I responded to that with my disbelief Beretta01 would show up and bash a fellow pilot ("Ray") for something as petty as their political beliefs, especially after he ran (and lost) for EXCO Chairman and wanted to represent us. I opined that he must wonder why he flies with so many reserve FOs too.
It was all removed by the hall monitor, as i'm sure this will be too. Whether Beretta01 reported it or not is unknown at this time. I think it's only fair to call him out on bringing politics to the cockpit again if he's going to post it again.
It was all removed by the hall monitor, as i'm sure this will be too. Whether Beretta01 reported it or not is unknown at this time. I think it's only fair to call him out on bringing politics to the cockpit again if he's going to post it again.
11-08-2018, 01:33 PM
#5969
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: A320
Posts: 311
Originally Posted by ecam
especially after he ran (and lost) for EXCO Chairman and wanted to represent us. I opined that he must wonder why he flies with so many reserve FOs too.
11-09-2018, 05:26 AM
#5970
Banned
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 733
Originally Posted by Beretta01
I almost forgot to address this in the original post: I’m definitely not who you think I am.....but, admittedly, I can see why you think I’m him, LOL!
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