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Old 11-14-2020 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Do you remember who said hacking played no part in the election in 2016? And that it could not be rigged?
2000 was about 542 votes in 1 state. Did you bother to read the rest of my post? If anything, Trump is currently losing the popular vote by 5.5 million votes. He has lost the popular vote in 2 straight elections. If nothing else, this should tell you that AT LEAST half the country doesn’t want him!

And I am certainly not one to parrot talking points, but you have to admit that it’s strange that people could claim there’s voter fraud only in the Presidential voting, but the Ds didn’t bother securing more votes in the Senate! That tells me that people don’t want Trump as President, but they want a Republican check on Biden’s powers. It’s ridiculous for anyone to look past these facts and insist that Trump was somehow cheated and has actually won.
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Old 11-15-2020 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by trvsmrtn
2000 was about 542 votes in 1 state. Did you bother to read the rest of my post? If anything, Trump is currently losing the popular vote by 5.5 million votes. He has lost the popular vote in 2 straight elections. If nothing else, this should tell you that AT LEAST half the country doesn’t want him!

And I am certainly not one to parrot talking points, but you have to admit that it’s strange that people could claim there’s voter fraud only in the Presidential voting, but the Ds didn’t bother securing more votes in the Senate! That tells me that people don’t want Trump as President, but they want a Republican check on Biden’s powers. It’s ridiculous for anyone to look past these facts and insist that Trump was somehow cheated and has actually won.
I don’t know how I misread 2016 as 2000, must’ve been the booze. Now that I reread your post, I have no idea what your point is, so please, enlighten us.
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Old 11-15-2020 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by trvsmrtn
I don’t know how I misread 2016 as 2000, must’ve been the booze. Now that I reread your post, I have no idea what your point is, so please, enlighten us.
Im saying one party can’t decide if our elections are secure. One minute Obama is saying there was no interference or hacking and no votes were impacted, the next minute Hillary is saying it was the Russians that caused her to lose. Fast forward to 2020 and joe Biden being in bed with some interesting business deals was Russian interference and our election system was in jeopardy. Now that they have the result they want the elections were 100% legit and should not be looked into. At least they are consistent, consistently hypocritical.
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Old 11-15-2020 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Im saying one party can’t decide if our elections are secure. One minute Obama is saying there was no interference or hacking and no votes were impacted, the next minute Hillary is saying it was the Russians that caused her to lose. Fast forward to 2020 and joe Biden being in bed with some interesting business deals was Russian interference and our election system was in jeopardy. Now that they have the result they want the elections were 100% legit and should not be looked into. At least they are consistent, consistently hypocritical.
Its funny that anyone would point out shady business deals by Biden without acknowledging Trump’s connections. We know Trump is Putin’s lap dog, we know Russia hacked election machines in 2016, and Putin has all but said that he helped Trump win in 2016.

As far as this election result, I haven’t heard anyone say the results shouldn’t be looked into. The Republican Secretary of State in Georgia put it best, and in my mind, it pretty much covers the result in every disputed state... he said that during the recount, they expect to find irregularities, but there won’t be enough to overturn the result.

I am getting tired of talking about all of this too, especially when it becomes a matter of addressing the same tired talking points over and over. No matter what anyone says, the election is over. In order for any of this to make it to the Supreme Court, the cases have to make their way through the lower courts, and so far every attempt to challenge a result in a lower court has resulted in the judge tossing the case. The only place Trump has a chance of having a significant number of ballots tossed is Pennsylvania because they were told to set aside the 10k mail in ballots received after Nov 3. Biden leads in PA by 59k votes, so that 10k don’t matter.

People want Trump to concede so that Biden can begin the work of transitioning and so that Trumps followers will accept it. Instead, he’s screaming that he was screwed and cheated and the proud boys are saying they’re sitting outside DC waiting for him to call them up. I have no doubt that once those cosplayers pull something, they’ll quickly be put down by the Secret Service and FBI, but they’re still a bunch of zealots with loaded guns.

In the meantime, Trump is desperately trying to raise money and he’s playing golf and rage tweeting about Fox News. He’s bitter that he lost and he’s not interested in pretending to do the job anymore. He’ll play a ****load of golf so that he can pocket as much taxpayer cash as he can before Jan 20. Don’t be surprised if he spends the next 2 months in Mar A Lago and read the fine print before sending him any money.

Done politicking, peace.
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Old 11-15-2020 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by trvsmrtn
Its funny that anyone would point out shady business deals by Biden without acknowledging Trump’s connections. We know Trump is Putin’s lap dog, we know Russia hacked election machines in 2016, and Putin has all but said that he helped Trump win in 2016.

As far as this election result, I haven’t heard anyone say the results shouldn’t be looked into. The Republican Secretary of State in Georgia put it best, and in my mind, it pretty much covers the result in every disputed state... he said that during the recount, they expect to find irregularities, but there won’t be enough to overturn the result.

I am getting tired of talking about all of this too, especially when it becomes a matter of addressing the same tired talking points over and over. No matter what anyone says, the election is over. In order for any of this to make it to the Supreme Court, the cases have to make their way through the lower courts, and so far every attempt to challenge a result in a lower court has resulted in the judge tossing the case. The only place Trump has a chance of having a significant number of ballots tossed is Pennsylvania because they were told to set aside the 10k mail in ballots received after Nov 3. Biden leads in PA by 59k votes, so that 10k don’t matter.

People want Trump to concede so that Biden can begin the work of transitioning and so that Trumps followers will accept it. Instead, he’s screaming that he was screwed and cheated and the proud boys are saying they’re sitting outside DC waiting for him to call them up. I have no doubt that once those cosplayers pull something, they’ll quickly be put down by the Secret Service and FBI, but they’re still a bunch of zealots with loaded guns.

In the meantime, Trump is desperately trying to raise money and he’s playing golf and rage tweeting about Fox News. He’s bitter that he lost and he’s not interested in pretending to do the job anymore. He’ll play a ****load of golf so that he can pocket as much taxpayer cash as he can before Jan 20. Don’t be surprised if he spends the next 2 months in Mar A Lago and read the fine print before sending him any money.

Done politicking, peace.
You're so misguided. What a shame.
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Old 11-15-2020 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ramalama
You're so misguided. What a shame.
Wow, you’re right. I’ll have to rethink everything. Thank you for this.
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Old 11-16-2020 | 03:18 AM
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Union just indicated that the only way furloughs will be called back prior to late 2021 would be with extension of CARES PSP.
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Old 11-16-2020 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Losamigos
Union just indicated that the only way furloughs will be called back prior to late 2021 would be with extension of CARES PSP.
Good luck with that. Government too busy pointing fingers instead of doing its job
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Old 11-17-2020 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by PiltWhosNotMgnt
Good luck with that. Government too busy pointing fingers instead of doing its job
Agree with you there. I think in the long run, it'll be better not to have stimulus for us and the other LCCs. It'll put is in a highly competitive position with the big 3. It just sucks that we're going to be on the streets for another year because of it.
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Old 11-19-2020 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
We have 130 pilots on furlough with downgrades and displacements coming
Non-Allegiant guy here. What is the story with downgrades and displacements at Allegiant?
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