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mainlineAF 03-16-2017 05:09 PM

All this redeye flying is a big reason why I'm still on the 190. Id guess you'd need to be 50% or better in most bid statuses to completely avoid them.

billyho 03-16-2017 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2322253)
All this redeye flying is a big reason why I'm still on the 190. Id guess you'd need to be 50% or better in most bid statuses to completely avoid them.

I hear ya. Time zone changes and I don't get along at all. If I never do a redeye in my career I'll be happy.

CaptYoda 03-16-2017 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Carlsbad (Post 2321518)
Delta is like Alaska. You go do the interview then say no thanks you can kiss ever getting another interview goodbye. I'll never get another call from Alaska Air group, because I said thanks, but no thanks. You make the decision to go first, then go and don't look back.


Not entirely true. A good friend of mine turned DAL down in the mid 90's for an overseas corporate job. Two years later, he had a change of heart , reapplied and was hired. He is now a Captain at DAL. Granted, he was probably the exception.

jcountry 03-17-2017 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2322253)
All this redeye flying is a big reason why I'm still on the 190. Id guess you'd need to be 50% or better in most bid statuses to completely avoid them.

Heck..... In MIA, you'd have to be @50% just to avoid reserve

jcountry 03-17-2017 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by Laker24 (Post 2321753)
One thing not to forget is the value of the pension. You would have to make an extra $2 million or so at AA over the course of a career to match the value of a $120k/Year pension at UPS. UPS and FedEx are way ahead of all the airlines if you are looking at it from just the compensation angle.


More to it than that.

I'm not sure what the deal is at UPS, but everyone I've known who's gone there absolutely hates the place after a few years. I've never heard of happy campers there.

mainlineAF 03-17-2017 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2322480)
Heck..... In MIA, you'd have to be @50% just to avoid reserve



Saw that. Has to be in anticipation of the D and I integration with PBS. Only thing I can think of besides general incompetence.

mainlineAF 03-17-2017 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 2322267)
I hear ya. Time zone changes and I don't get along at all. If I never do a redeye in my career I'll be happy.



Yep. I need lots of food, water and sleep. Take away one of those and I'm miserable.

I'll fly redeyes for group 2 captain pay. But not for FO pay. 4 legs a day on the e9 is fine with me.

PRS Guitars 03-17-2017 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2322486)
Yep. I need lots of food, water and sleep. Take away one of those and I'm miserable.

I'll fly redeyes for group 2 captain pay. But not for FO pay. 4 legs a day on the e9 is fine with me.

The actual red eye flying is pretty easy, it's the pay that is a problem. If it paid 15:30, I'd be trying to fly them. Of course, they'd add filler flying to make up for the soft time. They already do this with DEN. You do a Turn to somewhere in Florida, then go to DEN for your 25 hour layover.

Saabs 03-17-2017 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2322485)
Saw that. Has to be in anticipation of the D and I integration with PBS. Only thing I can think of besides general incompetence.

Where did you see that they are combining Miami D and I?

mrvmo 03-17-2017 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2322481)
More to it than that.

I'm not sure what the deal is at UPS, but everyone I've known who's gone there absolutely hates the place after a few years. I've never heard of happy campers there.

UPS has 20 or so who had the opportunity to return from furlough to AA back last April........none took the recall.


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