No

I have avoid red eyes in layer 1-3. I actually allow for trailing red eyes, because they are pretty easy and generally pay 20:40 for a four day. None of mine next month are trailing. I solved in layer 5, which I left wide open of constraints and included most waivers. I allowed double ups, because I'd rather do 2 red eyes over five days than six. Mine are all double ups in April. Thursdays thru Saturday's and Saturday's thru Monday.

The thing that probably is getting me is commutable work blocks with sign in at noon and release by 2130. I imagine I'd get less red eyes without that (though I do drop even that in layer 5).


Layer 6 is LCR with must off weekends off and layer 7 is LCR with prefer off weekends.

Also a spring 2014 hire in CLT. At our juniority, the only trips left by the time they get to us that are commutable will probably be redeyes. I've had good luck avoiding them by bidding the same number of days as duty periods. I've only gotten 2 since January and I've been able to trade them through TTS and TTOT.

CLT has the greatest percentage of retirements coming up. Think AA's retirements are great? They're even better in CLT. Followed by PHL.

Can't happen soon enough. I think every single one I've flown with floated. Thank god many will be gone by 2020. Say, Slice, when do retire again?

Not me, Lord willing. I didn't float, can I stay?

Guys, this senior bashing is getting old. Believe it or not, you guys really, really don't know it all.

Welcome back Slice.

I took it as sarcastically bashing slice, not senior people. The fact that we are such a senior airline is a good thing for the future :)

Maybe I missed it.

Absolutely, having old guys senior to you is a great thing vs. us all being the same age like we've had for 30 years.

I'm looking forward to some youth in union ranks.

This thread and conversation wouldn't exist if we as a pilot group COME TOGETHER, put our feet down and FORCE management to give us the best contract and work rules out there.

Apathy is our biggest enemy. We need APA (or merge with ALPA) to get the BOD all moving in the same direction. APA needs to be restructured, right now too many cooks in the kitchen with 22 BOD members.

We will never get the contract we deserve if we don't FIGHT for it.... and simply bailing for another airline won't help either.

People bash the senior guys bc a majority of them voted yes and floated. It may be misguided but it is frustrating knowing when the next contract comes around a majority of guys will strictly look at the money bc they don't have much time left.

I get it tho. Everyone has been getting hammered since 9/11 and wants the money.

I had a CLT captain in the jumpseat recently bragging how he knows guys flying 150 straight time and how mad he is for the 93 cap this month.

Slice where have you been?!? I know where you haven't been, on vacation. But thanks for the sweet data.