PHL E190 skinny
04-12-2017 | 09:50 AM
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Those red eye pairings are both terrible. The RDU one is two legs starting early, so not to easy to get sleep. The LGA one is unacceptable. You go from working super late at night i.e. The red eye part to a super early show time the next day. If you sleep right after the red eye portion, you won't be able to easily fall asleep that night. If you wait to sleep until night you'll be a zombie. I know this is how some international pairings work, but those are bad domestic pairings IMO
04-12-2017 | 10:00 AM
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Those red eye pairings are both terrible. The RDU one is two legs starting early, so not to easy to get sleep. The LGA one is unacceptable. You go from working super late at night i.e. The red eye part to a super early show time the next day. If you sleep right after the red eye portion, you won't be able to easily fall asleep that night. If you wait to sleep until night you'll be a zombie. I know this is how some international pairings work, but those are bad domestic pairings IMO
Agreed. Is there a way for APA to flag these pairings as unsafe so similar ones won't be built in the future?
04-12-2017 | 10:04 AM
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04-12-2017 | 10:17 AM
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Those pairings suck, but we have the same on the airbus.
PHX-SAN-CLT redeye
PHX-LAS-CLT redeye
PHX-SLC-CLT redeye
12 hours at the hotel then 2 legs back to base. This is their "solution" to increase pay on slash trips.
PHX-SAN-CLT redeye
PHX-LAS-CLT redeye
PHX-SLC-CLT redeye
12 hours at the hotel then 2 legs back to base. This is their "solution" to increase pay on slash trips.
04-12-2017 | 12:33 PM
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TankerDriver,
What are your concerns? With that info, we can give you better info. When is your class date?
I assume you are Air Force. One thing that was great about the 190 for me (also AF) was getting lots of reps in some of the toughest airports to operate out of (LGA, DCA, BOS). I learned a ton about airline ops. I really enjoyed the long Manhattan, BOS, and D.C. layovers (though under the new LAA rules, long layovers are pretty scarce now). I did a ton of sight seeing. You also will really appreciate the easy flying on the Airbus later on.
What are your concerns? With that info, we can give you better info. When is your class date?
I assume you are Air Force. One thing that was great about the 190 for me (also AF) was getting lots of reps in some of the toughest airports to operate out of (LGA, DCA, BOS). I learned a ton about airline ops. I really enjoyed the long Manhattan, BOS, and D.C. layovers (though under the new LAA rules, long layovers are pretty scarce now). I did a ton of sight seeing. You also will really appreciate the easy flying on the Airbus later on.
I actually haven't gotten a call yet, but I'm hoping to hear something soon. I am a full-timer in an ARC unit. PHL is my 1st choice of basing.
Thanks for the info.
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04-12-2017 | 06:32 PM
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Good Luck! Hope you get a call soon. You can't go wrong with either the 190 or Airbus. Either one will get you to PHL quickly.
04-13-2017 | 08:07 PM
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04-14-2017 | 04:04 AM
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Best part also of the 190 is I've had some EPIC 34 hour layovers that have rivaled some of my regional day good times!!! You'll fly with great younger Captains that want to go out and actually drop the hammer and have a good time.
This makes your first year on it much worth it.
This makes your first year on it much worth it.
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