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Old 05-01-2017 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Tpinks
PIT based pilot here and leaning towards United or American for in the future.

Currently flying the 170/175, so if I go AA I'm leaning towards the E190 initially and would probably rid it out till the end.

What cities specifically is the 190 flying? I was under the impression they were more or less just the shuttle planes, but I noticed on the other new hire thread they have Domestic and International fleets?

I don't fly it, but it's only based out of PHL. On the US side, everyone was trained International, so that I designation on the 190 is just a carryover from the time before the sides got shuffled together.

I'm from the AA side so I don't know this for sure, but I'd imagine there are a ton of pilots commuting to PHL out of PIT.
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Old 05-01-2017 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by LuckyNow

I'm from the AA side so I don't know this for sure, but I'd imagine there are a ton of pilots commuting to PHL out of PIT.
You nailed it.

I'd strongly consider an LAA base for the reason that pilots don't like change, so most PIT commuters will stick with LUS bases. Also, all of the FA's for now will as well.
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Old 05-01-2017 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars
You nailed it.

I'd strongly consider an LAA base for the reason that pilots don't like change, so most PIT commuters will stick with LUS bases. Also, all of the FA's for now will as well.


I was supposed to fly a PIT turn out of PHL today. It got equipment swapped but I checked the standby list before that happened. Something like 30 nonrevs each way. Multiple pilots.
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Old 05-01-2017 | 06:41 PM
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A couple times when I was based in PHL the CA and both flight attendants lived in PIT. Like others said, pick a LAA base, the commute will be much easier.
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Old 05-02-2017 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Tpinks
PIT based pilot here and leaning towards United or American for in the future.

Currently flying the 170/175, so if I go AA I'm leaning towards the E190 initially and would probably rid it out till the end.

What cities specifically is the 190 flying? I was under the impression they were more or less just the shuttle planes, but I noticed on the other new hire thread they have Domestic and International fleets?
You DO NOT want to be commuting PIT to PHL, especially on Probation. One of the worst, if not THE worst commute in the system.
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Old 05-18-2017 | 07:27 AM
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I was hired in Jan'17. PHL E190.

For June, I was #113 out of 144. I'll be on SC reserve with only one weekend off. Most junior LC reserve is 13 numbers ahead of me and the most junior line holder is 22 numbers ahead of me.

Looking at PBS awards for other bases... there are lineholders junior to me on the Airbus at LGA and UDC. I'd be LC reserve on the 737 in MIA and only 3 numbers away from being a lineholder.

AA is great, the E190 is a nice jet, and the crews are wonderful. I'm very happy and fortunate to be here. However, all the talk of fast movement on the E190 hasn't turned out to be true for me. The seat lock is 6 months from scheduled training completion and they can withhold you for up to 1yr after the effective date of the award. For me, that means they can withhold me until August of 2018, which is way longer than I care to be on the E190.

Just something for you guys to consider when you're bidding on your jet!
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Old 05-18-2017 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by flydc
I was hired in Jan'17. PHL E190.

For June, I was #113 out of 144. I'll be on SC reserve with only one weekend off. Most junior LC reserve is 13 numbers ahead of me and the most junior line holder is 22 numbers ahead of me.

Looking at PBS awards for other bases... there are lineholders junior to me on the Airbus at LGA and UDC. I'd be LC reserve on the 737 in MIA and only 3 numbers away from being a lineholder.

AA is great, the E190 is a nice jet, and the crews are wonderful. I'm very happy and fortunate to be here. However, all the talk of fast movement on the E190 hasn't turned out to be true for me. The seat lock is 6 months from scheduled training completion and they can withhold you for up to 1yr after the effective date of the award. For me, that means they can withhold me until August of 2018, which is way longer than I care to be on the E190.

Just something for you guys to consider when you're bidding on your jet!
Good to know, sounds like the paradigm has shifted.
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Old 05-18-2017 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by flydc
I was hired in Jan'17. PHL E190.

For June, I was #113 out of 144. I'll be on SC reserve with only one weekend off. Most junior LC reserve is 13 numbers ahead of me and the most junior line holder is 22 numbers ahead of me.

Looking at PBS awards for other bases... there are lineholders junior to me on the Airbus at LGA and UDC. I'd be LC reserve on the 737 in MIA and only 3 numbers away from being a lineholder.

AA is great, the E190 is a nice jet, and the crews are wonderful. I'm very happy and fortunate to be here. However, all the talk of fast movement on the E190 hasn't turned out to be true for me. The seat lock is 6 months from scheduled training completion and they can withhold you for up to 1yr after the effective date of the award. For me, that means they can withhold me until August of 2018, which is way longer than I care to be on the E190.

Just something for you guys to consider when you're bidding on your jet!

True, but if you look at the award report, 15 or so of those beneath that 113 seniority no. weren't awarded anything at all which you would have to assume means they are still in training? So its actually more like being 113 out of 129. That said the same thing happened to me as an FO on the 190 where buddies of mine a few months senior moved up quick and I was stuck on reserve SC/LC for 8 months or so. The churn at the bottom (FO 190) ebbs and flows. Still overall, if you want to move up and be guaranteed no red eyes, the 190 isn't a bad place to be in terms of schedule and pay, especially now with the lock only being 6 months or if you live in the Philly area.

The other hidden gem in the system if you can get it is UDC (DCA) which also has relatively few red eyes, only problem there is crashpads are either scarce or expensive.

good luck to everyone.
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Old 05-18-2017 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by flydc
I was hired in Jan'17. PHL E190.

For June, I was #113 out of 144. I'll be on SC reserve with only one weekend off. Most junior LC reserve is 13 numbers ahead of me and the most junior line holder is 22 numbers ahead of me.

Looking at PBS awards for other bases... there are lineholders junior to me on the Airbus at LGA and UDC. I'd be LC reserve on the 737 in MIA and only 3 numbers away from being a lineholder.

AA is great, the E190 is a nice jet, and the crews are wonderful. I'm very happy and fortunate to be here. However, all the talk of fast movement on the E190 hasn't turned out to be true for me. The seat lock is 6 months from scheduled training completion and they can withhold you for up to 1yr after the effective date of the award. For me, that means they can withhold me until August of 2018, which is way longer than I care to be on the E190.

Just something for you guys to consider when you're bidding on your jet!
Wait. You were hired in January of THIS year? So, I assume you finished training in about mid to late March or so, which means you've been flying the line for, what, 1-1/2 months? And you're a little bummed you're on SC Reserve? I must be missing something, because people normally spend a year or even two on Reserve before they finally get a hard line. At least that's been the case on the other narrowbody jets, anyway. Do pilots really move up the list on the 190 THAT fast? Never knew that.
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Old 05-18-2017 | 07:04 PM
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There is such a big difference in pay between the 190 and 320/737 on year 2 that about 90% of the FOs bid off within the first year. The company hold people, but they at least get the higher pay.
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