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Old 03-06-2019, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by wiz5422 View Post
Funny how those don't start over but every thing else does simply putting us as a new hire....Cheap AA.
Can you add context to your post? Are you at AA, by flow, or about to flow to AA?
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Old 03-06-2019, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by wiz5422 View Post
Funny how those don't start over but every thing else does simply putting us as a new hire....Cheap AA.
I thought y’all keep vacation, get 401k DC right away and other stuff. Is that wrong? And you get whatever eagle negotiated.
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Old 03-06-2019, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay View Post
Can you add context to your post? Are you at AA, by flow, or about to flow to AA?
Does it matter? Close to flowing, so was wondering about the D1 bank since flows lose, vacation time, can't cash out sick bank. They are essentially new hires from day one, so why does the non rev passes yea transfer?
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Old 03-06-2019, 09:47 AM
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If it's any consolation, when I left HDQ1 for Envoy...my pass bank (D1s and D3s) transferred, and did not start over. That being said, I sure lost my 401K match, 3 weeks vacation, sick bank, etcetera.
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Old 03-06-2019, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue View Post
If it's any consolation, when I left HDQ1 for Envoy...my pass bank (D1s and D3s) transferred, and did not start over. That being said, I sure lost my 401K match, 3 weeks vacation, sick bank, etcetera.
What’s HDQ1?

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Old 03-06-2019, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nAAtive View Post
What’s HDQ1?
The AA mothership off of Amon Carter...I worked in corporate strategy/planning there for 5 years before returning to the flight deck.
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Old 03-06-2019, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Saabs View Post
I thought y’all keep vacation, get 401k DC right away and other stuff. Is that wrong? And you get whatever eagle negotiated.
I think flows from wholly owneds get 401k DC year one and that’s it (from your list).

The exception was envoy’s 824 agreement which has long since ended.
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Old 03-06-2019, 12:37 PM
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I think it’s good the pass allotment does transfer. Otherwise someone would, as a partial Envoy pilot and partial new hire, get twice as many D1s as the rest of us. Given that we have no seniority for nonrev travel, how fair would that be?

AA often makes me shake my head, so I’m actually impressed someone thought this through.
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Old 03-06-2019, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wiz5422 View Post
Does it matter? Close to flowing, so was wondering about the D1 bank since flows lose, vacation time, can't cash out sick bank. They are essentially new hires from day one, so why does the non rev passes yea transfer?
Just curious.
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Old 03-06-2019, 02:21 PM
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You aren’t really a new hire day one. You are at a 16% advantage vs a hire OTS since your 401k starts day one when you come from a WO. I’ll happily give you my D1s for your 16%.
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