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Old 08-26-2017, 02:52 PM   #1
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Anyone hearing anything new about securing min calendar day?
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Anyone hearing anything new about securing min calendar day?
I heard from a closed AA group that it isn't happening this year.
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Old 08-26-2017, 08:04 PM   #3
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I heard from a closed AA group that it isn't happening this year.
I saw that. They are saying it's LOS or calendar day.
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I saw that. They are saying it's LOS or calendar day.
Calendar day helps everyone. This should be a no brainer.
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I saw that. They are saying it's LOS or calendar day.
You want to know how you to turn a pilot group against each other so that their differing objectives prevent them from banding together for a cause? This is a textbook example of how to do it.

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Calendar day helps everyone. This should be a no brainer.
Unless you were affected by LOS. For those guys, min calendar day is a pennies-on-the-dollar compromise. And AA knows that.
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You want to know how you to turn a pilot group against each other so that their differing objectives prevent them from banding together for a cause? This is a textbook example of how to do it.


Unless you were affected by LOS. For those guys, min calendar day is a pennies-on-the-dollar compromise. And AA knows that.
I'm sorry for those dudes, but min calendar day helps everyone. It also helps with recruiting and retention. Our contract is trash. Fixing LOS does nothing for the greater pilot group right now.
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This is a textbook example of how to do it.


And AA knows that.
Where do you guys get these "textbooks"? Many people quote some textbook somewhere but I've never seen this all giving book in the flesh. Can you order it on Amazon? Maybe it's that infamous all knowing "guy in the jumpseat" that is the keeper of the book. I still
havent had that guy in my jumpseat yet.
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I'm sorry for those dudes, but min calendar day helps everyone. It also helps with recruiting and retention. Our contract is trash. Fixing LOS does nothing for the greater pilot group right now.
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That's exactly why APA will settle on LOS!
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Old 08-27-2017, 06:35 AM   #9
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Calendar day would be huge. I feel for the furloughees but calendar day helps everyone.

Side note. Didn't a lot of the furloughees bypass recall for a while? So the guys who are on 3rd or 4th year pay could have come back a while ago and been on a much higher longevity pay?

If it's one or the other it should obviously be calendar day. But I don't fly slash trip so whatevs.
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Min calendar day would be a 30% to 50% raise for the guys stuck with slash trips. Some guys are currently working 18 days a month for 78 hours.
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