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08-28-2017, 10:57 AM
#31
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: CA
Posts: 483
While not the biggest aLPA cheerleader it sure makes sense when you’re negotiating to just hand over the Delta/Other ALPA carrier contracts and say ‘me too’. Oh, and for the love of god, stop voting in the same d!cks.
08-28-2017, 11:02 AM
#32
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Position: 6th place
Posts: 1,826
Originally Posted by SilverandSore
While not the biggest aLPA cheerleader it sure makes sense when you’re negotiating to just hand over the Delta/Other ALPA carrier contracts and say ‘me too’. Oh, and for the love of god, stop voting in the same d!cks.
Not just me too, but me too plus X %. It's disrespectful to the other airlines not to even try and raise the bar.
08-28-2017, 12:12 PM
#34
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Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 569
Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta
Are the commuter hotels in their contract? I was under the impression they are an added recruiting tool just like the bonuses and thus easily taken away if staffing is no longer an issue.
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08-28-2017, 12:23 PM
#35
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 269
Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear
Hotels were an LOA. They are in the contract. Any signing bonus or retention bonus was outside of the contract and/or LOA.
Yes hotels were an LOA but with the caveat that they can be cancelled by the company with notice. Either 60 or 90 days I don't remember exactly.
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08-28-2017, 01:28 PM
#36
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Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 1,681
Originally Posted by Al Czervik
The good part is ALPA F&A was hired to cost our next contract. If the DFW brain trust listens in a whole different story.
Those dickballs spend at least 90% of their time screwing people who pay dues.
They quite literally and purposefully hose various groups of our pilots. I guess the guys who the Bad Seeds represent must love that-because they damn sure elect the same bastards,
08-28-2017, 02:09 PM
#37
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: MD-11 FO
Posts: 2,180
Originally Posted by jcountry
I doubt they will.
Those dickballs spend at least 90% of their time screwing people who pay dues.
They quite literally and purposefully hose various groups of our pilots. I guess the guys who the Bad Seeds represent must love that-because they damn sure elect the same bastards,
Those dickballs spend at least 90% of their time screwing people who pay dues.
They quite literally and purposefully hose various groups of our pilots. I guess the guys who the Bad Seeds represent must love that-because they damn sure elect the same bastards,
08-28-2017, 02:14 PM
#38
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Reverse Cowgirl
Posts: 545
Originally Posted by aa73
Contract 2020:
1) 5:30 Min Calendar Day
2) Full LOS
3) LTD fix up to industry standard
4) Industry leading Profit Sharing
5) Industry leading hotel language
6) DL/UA/FDX/UPS + 1% for pay
I'd say that would be a pretty good start!
1) 5:30 Min Calendar Day
2) Full LOS
3) LTD fix up to industry standard
4) Industry leading Profit Sharing
5) Industry leading hotel language
6) DL/UA/FDX/UPS + 1% for pay
I'd say that would be a pretty good start!
08-28-2017, 03:08 PM
#40
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Position: Violin on the Envoy-tanic
Posts: 175
We at envoy spent the last decade that I've been here (so I'm sure for even longer) being F-ed by ALPA national.
They would rather hide MEC members abusing their fiduciary duty instead of fix the problem.
When I pointedly asked the ALPA president that signed the concessionary PSA whipsaw contract that undercut us and stole our CRJ's how in the hell he could justify allowing one ALPA carrier to directly undermine another, his answer was "because it was a contract improvement for them."
Voting in ALPA would be a serious, serious mistake. As much as APA may be screwed up, at least their primary responsibilities are to AA pilots and no one else. I wish we were that lucky.
They would rather hide MEC members abusing their fiduciary duty instead of fix the problem.
When I pointedly asked the ALPA president that signed the concessionary PSA whipsaw contract that undercut us and stole our CRJ's how in the hell he could justify allowing one ALPA carrier to directly undermine another, his answer was "because it was a contract improvement for them."
Voting in ALPA would be a serious, serious mistake. As much as APA may be screwed up, at least their primary responsibilities are to AA pilots and no one else. I wish we were that lucky.
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