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08-29-2017 | 02:59 PM
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08-29-2017 | 03:01 PM
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One of the things I dislike about the structure of ALPA is exactly what Trinity pointed out. OAL ALPA execs will be coaching our reps on what is best for our airline. No thank you. I don't care for external forces meddling in my business. We are better off with less bureaucracy.
08-29-2017 | 03:41 PM
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I could not agree more. The one great thing is the "third listers or BTL'ers" are a very tight knit group. We will eventually get these guys out.
08-29-2017 | 04:05 PM
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Oh I have no doubt APA has its own set of problems. But as Sheepdog said, voting in ALPA won't fix those problems. Introducing a new layer of bureaucracy that has a completely different set of motivations from the rank and file of AA pilots only complicates things.That's all I'm saying.
It's what I am concerned about as well.....
ALPA won't solve anything-if we keep electing the same retarded ass hats who gave us this crapfest of a contract.
08-29-2017 | 04:06 PM
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APA is way, way worse.
We would have industry standard (at least) work rules if those bastards had not gone to extremes to hose their own dues-paying members.
08-29-2017 | 05:33 PM
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08-29-2017 | 05:41 PM
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Not to derail the conversation, but you just made one helluva argument for federalism....
08-29-2017 | 06:07 PM
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This is the most frustrating thing. Election after election, the same names keep showing up to the table. How many base reps ran unopposed over the last couple of years? It's a hypothetical question and the answer is WAAAAAY too many.
Hell, the CLT rep (who ran unopposed) couldn't even be bothered to stay for the last day of the last meeting (which he dropped trips and was paid for). He was on a flight a 7 am and failed to leave a proxy with anyone. He's violated multiple union directives about Scheduling notifications and deadheads and then pens a blast stating what he did and then proceeds to blame others.
That's on all of our heads!
08-29-2017 | 08:19 PM
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