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Old 08-31-2017, 06:33 PM
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Old 09-01-2017, 09:52 AM
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Would somebody please explain the presidents recent message. Why would new hires care about LOS for pilots furloughed after 9/11? I was furloughed after 9/11 and I even think the unions position is nuts! I want a decent quality of life for what remains of my career. Min day, improved rigs etc, help all pilots and will help attract new ones. Are these guys blind or just plane/plain stupid?
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Had the same question myself.
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Carlsbad View Post
Would somebody please explain the presidents recent message. Why would new hires care about LOS for pilots furloughed after 9/11? I was furloughed after 9/11 and I even think the unions position is nuts! I want a decent quality of life for what remains of my career. Min day, improved rigs etc, help all pilots and will help attract new ones. Are these guys blind or just plane/plain stupid?


Exactly. I just read it and was scratching my head. New hires could care less about LOS. Min calendar day on the other hand, that's an issue.

Sounds like APA has dug their heels in on this issue and so has the company. We can kiss min calendar day good bye until the next contract.
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Originally Posted by Carlsbad View Post
Would somebody please explain the presidents recent message. Why would new hires care about LOS for pilots furloughed after 9/11? I was furloughed after 9/11 and I even think the unions position is nuts! I want a decent quality of life for what remains of my career. Min day, improved rigs etc, help all pilots and will help attract new ones. Are these guys blind or just plane/plain stupid?
While I don't think the issue crosses the mind of AA applicants, it does benifit new hires, in the sense that if they get furloughed, it'd be in the contract and would benefit them when they come back.

I'm for it, and don't believe that LOS and min calendar day have to be mutually exclusive. I actually think LTD (and Short term too) is way more important than both of those issues.
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Old 09-01-2017, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF View Post
Exactly. I just read it and was scratching my head. New hires could care less about LOS. Min calendar day on the other hand, that's an issue.

Sounds like APA has dug their heels in on this issue and so has the company. We can kiss min calendar day good bye until the next contract.
"We can kiss min calendar goodbye until the next contract"

Who says we are going to get it in the next contract?
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Old 09-02-2017, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CenterlinePrep View Post
"We can kiss min calendar goodbye until the next contract"

Who says we are going to get it in the next contract?

We do...vote no till the proposed CBA resembles something much more then the toilet paper it is now
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Originally Posted by CenterlinePrep View Post
"We can kiss min calendar goodbye until the next contract"



Who says we are going to get it in the next contract?


Well whether or not we get in the next contract is up to us and to be determined.

I was saying getting it as a management handout like profit sharing and the pay raise is not going to happen now.
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Old 09-03-2017, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars View Post
While I don't think the issue crosses the mind of AA applicants, it does benifit new hires, in the sense that if they get furloughed, it'd be in the contract and would benefit them when they come back.
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Not really. Do you think any of these agreements matter if we go into bankruptcy and have furloughs again? Doubtful.

This is a push for a small group at the expense of the entire pilot group.
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Old 09-03-2017, 01:33 PM
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This is a push for a small group at the expense of the entire pilot group.
Just a little thing called...unity

I am surprised to see a lot of people on here, who constantly complain about how senior pilots ruined the industry, how QOL items matter, how all they care is money and themselves

Then when the union puts some unity together, same people complain they are not getting "theirs"

####'ing pilots.
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