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“But despite record profitability, in 2016 management imposed a reduction in the pilots’ profit-sharing formula under the purview of the individual pilot employment agreements that each pilot currently has with the company. The move did, however, come with several negotiated tradeoffs in the form of a letter of agreement (LOA)—including an 8 percent pay rate increase, which was given to all other JetBlue employees, as well as additional holidays. Another key item in the LOA also stipulates that no additional modifications can be made to the profit-sharing formula outside of negotiations.

In the end, the pilots voted 97 percent in favor of ratifying the LOA without waiving any positions or rights in collective bargaining. In spite of the overwhelming support for the LOA, the company’s unilateral change to profit sharing underscores the need for the pilot group to achieve a negotiated contract.”

Yeah? And SO? And after over two years what has ALPA really done for them? Not a thing. Reality check JetBlue.....check why you’re wallets are fatter after two years. That’s right, JetBlue gave it to you.

 

One mans “tool”is another man’s “FOOL”.

 

If things were so great non-union at JetBlue, how’d ALPA get involved in the first place?

 

About 696 pilots didn’t vote for ALPA and about 100 more didn’t vote at all. 1734 voted for ALPA. I wouldn’t say that was a great victory for ALPA or the JetBlue Pilots....escpecially over three years out looking back. Spirit isn’t making much headway either.

Why do YOU think that is?

 

As I recall I HAVE flown with several Skywest pilots that have come here. The MAIN reason they came was most of their Captains loved it there and weren’t going to to leave because the pay and working conditions were very good. Management actually listened to them and the guys I flew with had no complaints about the management. They were here because they weren’t going to get CAPTAIN seats anytime soon and didn’t want to miss the promised promotional opportunity American offered. I repeat....they LOVED that their managment listened to them. I’m not making this up. And I’ll KEEP asking them to see if I get anything different. I promise I’ll let you know.

 

Lol you do realize Skywest is now one of the lowest paid regionals by a long shot?

 

Management does NOT listen to them any more than any other airline's management does.

The two Skywest pilots I who I am good friends with - both junior captains with four years seniority - are fed up with Skywest. That place is certainly NOT the place you are spinning it to be. All you need to do is read the Skywest board right here on APC to see that. Management does NOT love them. Both of these pilots are working hard to move on ASAP. One has an interview with AS in a few weeks, in fact.

Upgrade times there are basically on par with other large Regionals- about 1-1/2 to 2 years, give or take a few months. The pilots are upgrading, getting their year or two in as captains, and are bailing for major airlines at a high rate.

 

LOL! DO YOU REALIZE THEIR PILOTS RATIFIED A THREE YEAR CONTRACT AMENDABLE IN 2018???

SkyWest Airlines pilots ratify 3-year labor contract | Labor content from ATWOnline

"SkyWest Airlines said a “strong majority” of its pilots have voted to accept a new, three-year labor contract. The agreement, which replaces a prior agreement that became amendable in January 2015, will run through mid-2018. SkyWest Airlines is a subsidiary of St. George, Utah-based regional airline operator SkyWest Inc. and the flight deck crew are represented by the SkyWest Airlines Pilot Association.
In any case, THEY AREN'T STARVING!

 

The flip side was that it was a very divided pilot group. Almost half voted no and were embarrassed when it passed. They considered their yes voters to be spineless sheep.

 

Yeah, but bragging about gains in wages with a shortage of candidates? That's explained by pretty much the most basic economics. Skywest is competing for pilots like every other regional.

That same competitive factor won't help you keep your job if you feel the need to stand up to management shenanigans. It doesn't help with pilot pushing, and it doesn't help with work rules and pay when pilot supply is better. Admittedly unions are weak right now which don't make them much better, but that is an argument for strengthening, not ditching them.