Silly radio tuning question?
02-07-2018, 07:16 AM
#91
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Originally Posted by cactusmike
Zero, because I’ve never seen it before AA.
Although, Delta did it on a departure out of LAX on a 767 a long time ago. They put the guards around the cutoff switches after that.
I just do what they want, sometimes I don’t understand why they want me to do it, but I do it. And it still freaks me out when people have their hands near stuff that can make bad things happen.
I’m not sure what your issue is with the depress routes or the EO. We got those after the Airways merger and after a few sim sessions it made sense. I used to do it on the way down to MEX or GDL just to figure it out.
Although, Delta did it on a departure out of LAX on a 767 a long time ago. They put the guards around the cutoff switches after that.
I just do what they want, sometimes I don’t understand why they want me to do it, but I do it. And it still freaks me out when people have their hands near stuff that can make bad things happen.
I’m not sure what your issue is with the depress routes or the EO. We got those after the Airways merger and after a few sim sessions it made sense. I used to do it on the way down to MEX or GDL just to figure it out.
02-07-2018, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
Sort of along those lines...I do not like guys guarding the flap handle, like when we are accelerating or slowing. I had a F/O go flaps up on me on a heavy 321, out of PHX, way too slow.
02-07-2018, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars
Just flew with a Capt that did this, I wouldn’t call it guarding, more like leaning over with his hand on the flaps waiting for (maybe pimping) me to call “Flaps up”...
02-07-2018, 12:31 PM
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At least on the bus you can’t really tell if the captain is guarding the stick as you can’t really see it. I have had a guy ride the rudders in case something happens. I hated it as it made it feel weird and different.
02-07-2018, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
At least on the bus you can’t really tell if the captain is guarding the stick as you can’t really see it. I have had a guy ride the rudders in case something happens. I hated it as it made it feel weird and different.
02-07-2018, 04:14 PM
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There are definitely a few Bus Captains who ride the rudder pedals during MY takeoff. It’s irritating to me for the stated reason - I keep feeling THEIR feet acting against mine. First time I felt it, I thought maybe there might have been some sort of rudder pedal malfunction, so I mentioned it after I pulled it off. Nope. He says, sorry, that was me following you up on the rudders. I thought to myself “Dude. Who’s steering here? You? Or me?”, as I could barely conceal a huge eyeroll on my part.
For the Flap Lever guys who lean in and put their hand on it when the speed is stil about 5 knots shy of the retract speed, I see it, I know they’re there, and yet I just wait. I wait until the plane is maybe 3-5 knots ABOVE the minimum flap retract speed to call Flaps Up, After Takeoff Checklist. Just for them.
In all fairness though, that’s purely a personality thing with them. All airlines have those types.
For the Flap Lever guys who lean in and put their hand on it when the speed is stil about 5 knots shy of the retract speed, I see it, I know they’re there, and yet I just wait. I wait until the plane is maybe 3-5 knots ABOVE the minimum flap retract speed to call Flaps Up, After Takeoff Checklist. Just for them.
In all fairness though, that’s purely a personality thing with them. All airlines have those types.
02-07-2018, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
There are definitely a few Bus Captains who ride the rudder pedals during MY takeoff. It’s irritating to me for the stated reason - I keep feeling THEIR feet acting against mine. First time I felt it, I thought maybe there might have been some sort of rudder pedal malfunction, so I mentioned it after I pulled it off. Nope. He says, sorry, that was me following you up on the rudders. I thought to myself “Dude. Who’s steering here? You? Or me?”, as I could barely conceal a huge eyeroll on my part.
For the Flap Lever guys who lean in and put their hand on it when the speed is stil about 5 knots shy of the retract speed, I see it, I know they’re there, and yet I just wait. I wait until the plane is maybe 3-5 knots ABOVE the minimum flap retract speed to call Flaps Up, After Takeoff Checklist. Just for them.
In all fairness though, that’s purely a personality thing with them. All airlines have those types.
For the Flap Lever guys who lean in and put their hand on it when the speed is stil about 5 knots shy of the retract speed, I see it, I know they’re there, and yet I just wait. I wait until the plane is maybe 3-5 knots ABOVE the minimum flap retract speed to call Flaps Up, After Takeoff Checklist. Just for them.
In all fairness though, that’s purely a personality thing with them. All airlines have those types.
02-08-2018, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by sumwherelse
The rudder riding is dangerous!!! More then once I thought I had a stick rudder or something. Haven’t figured out a way to address that yet.
“Your airplane.”
But, if you want to be nice you can say “do you want to fly?” Either way, I maintain control until there’s a “sorry” or I hear “my airplane.” It does two things - let’s the other person know they are heavy footed (or handed if they ‘follow’ you on the yoke) and/or gives the other person the ability to address something you may not be seeing.
We had a guy at my squadron that was notorious for ‘helping’ out. Believe me, there are ways I won’t admit to in order to prevent them from doing it with you again. At the airline - I’m muuuuch nicer
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