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Old 11-12-2018, 10:37 AM
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He only looked at the pay rates.
How would you know anything about me, or how I voted, or why, “Al”? Why the personal mud-sling at me?
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Old 11-12-2018, 10:44 AM
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Why are you guys fighting over vacancy bids? We have zero control over them. BTW our vacancy process is far superior to what Delta does.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:06 AM
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With a nice $3000+ APA dinner (almost on their members' dime).
That was a one time deal. Members are being soaked for more every month. It’s just less obvious.

And the band played on.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post
He only looked at the pay rates.
Wasn't the vacancy award at LUS whenever they felt like it? With half the pay we are making now?

I feel a lot of LUS guys like to crap on LAA for no reason. Kinda sorta similar to the TWA folks.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice View Post
How would you know anything about me, or how I voted, or why, “Al”? Why the personal mud-sling at me?
I’m tired of the idea that LAA brought a bag of gifts to this merger. We had lower pay. You guys had a laundry list of archaic crap and a crappy culture we are dealing with now. AA was and is a mess. You made a stupid comment. I may have said something stupid in return. Apologies for that.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:54 AM
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Wasn't the vacancy award at LUS whenever they felt like it? With half the pay we are making now?

I feel a lot of LUS guys like to crap on LAA for no reason. Kinda sorta similar to the TWA folks.
I love the TWA guys. No elitesim and no BS.
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Al, there was no elitism in my statement. I honestly feel the opposite to be true. As Name User said, some LUS folks seem to love to constantly come in here and sling mud at LAA folks.

All I said was we at LAA had the bid runs every month. LUS management comes in, and now those monthly bids are gone. Yes, we all voted this POS contract in, including you folks, but the LUS management team was the team that obviously wanted that monthly bid run to be changed to 3x per year.

As for LUS and AWA folks, I’ve loved flying with them. Awesome folks. No elitism on my end, Al.
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Old 11-12-2018, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice View Post
Al, there was no elitism in my statement. I honestly feel the opposite to be true. As Name User said, some LUS folks seem to love to constantly come in here and sling mud at LAA folks.

All I said was we at LAA had the bid runs every month. LUS management comes in, and now those monthly bids are gone. Yes, we all voted this POS contract in, including you folks, but the LUS management team was the team that obviously wanted that monthly bid run to be changed to 3x per year.

As for LUS and AWA folks, I’ve loved flying with them. Awesome folks. No elitism on my end, Al.
That’s good to hear. You guys bring up an interesting point. This is an honest question. Why would guys bag on LAA if things were so bad at US and things were great here.

I heard a LUS guy say this (I think a lot of people feel this way)
At Airways I hated my paycheck and loved my job.
At American I love my paycheck and hate my job.

I don’t get it. What’s wrong with the culture here and more importantly... will it ever be fixed? I definitely don’t know.
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I think very few here are under any illusions that LAA has been any good in most ways. It’s been pretty bad for at least two decades. Certain items in the contract were nice, but not many. Culture has always been toxic.
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Old 11-12-2018, 12:24 PM
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I moved to an LAA base (LGA) and really like it. Great crews, good trips - it’s hard to complain. But I know it’s not like this everywhere.
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