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Old 11-20-2018, 08:57 PM
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Since we fly in the middle of the envelope the FBW protection isn’t a factor. The AB hand flies fine.
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I’ve heard people talk about the yaw... I remember the Q400 was awful back there.
It was even more pronounced on the Q200, with 37 seats. I remember several evening flights out of SEA going over the Cascades. I used to volunteer to sit in the center of 5 across back row just to get my jollies off. Between yaw and pitch, coupled with a heavy rich meal before boarding, the rest of the passengers in that row (row 9) would all use the barf bag. I kid you not.
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In the same way listening to music on an iPhone is nicer than on an 8 track. Way, *WAY* nicer.
Wow, easy there bro! You make this statement on an audiophile board and you might just get tarred & feathered! But you'd probably lose your b@lls!
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Old 11-21-2018, 05:39 AM
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737 all the way. Like a stick shift sports car... cramped, loud, tight fit but yet still requires old school piloting skills that are going extinct these days.. and a pure joy to fly.

Wanna be a systems manager and lose your flying skills, bid the Scarebus. Wanna still be a pilot at heart, bid the 737. I can hold the left seat of both in base, at the same seniority... wouldn’t switch in a million years.

“Friends let (senior) friends bid the Scarebus... so they can move up the list on the 737.”
Loss of flying skills on the bus? Pilot at heart to fly a 737? WTF are you talking about? Fly the plane with everything off.

737MAX... Taking an unexpected dive near you?
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Old 11-21-2018, 08:07 AM
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Loss of flying skills on the bus? Pilot at heart to fly a 737? WTF are you talking about? Fly the plane with everything off.

737MAX... Taking an unexpected dive near you?
I know.. I don't get it when people say things like "if you enjoy flying go 737". .I'm like .. what? It's an airplane. You hand fly it just like any other.
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Old 11-21-2018, 01:06 PM
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Loss of flying skills on the bus? Pilot at heart to fly a 737? WTF are you talking about? Fly the plane with everything off.

737MAX... Taking an unexpected dive near you?
I thought that you didn’t have to trim in the airbus? So let go of the stick in a turn and it maintains a perfect bank angle and altitude. Lots of skill involved in that... not. 737 keeps those old skills sharp. Airbus, the computer has the controls at all times, right? Unless in direct law.

And comparing uncommanded dives.. ya really wanna go there? How many have happened on the airbus? Qantas.. Lufthansa.. etc. Luckily with no fatalities as they happened at altitude.. but hey if they happened at 5000 like Lion I’m not so sure they woulda ended well.

Look, I’m not disputing the safety record of both aircraft, they are safe enough. Just pointing out that there is a reason Airbus pilots claim that it makes a great pilot just average. And that flying the 737 makes the job a heck of a lotta fun, and keeps your skills sharp, what with all the old school gadgets up there.
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Old 11-21-2018, 02:04 PM
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I thought that you didn’t have to trim in the airbus? So let go of the stick in a turn and it maintains a perfect bank angle and altitude. Lots of skill involved in that... not. 737 keeps those old skills sharp. Airbus, the computer has the controls at all times, right? Unless in direct law.

And comparing uncommanded dives.. ya really wanna go there? How many have happened on the airbus? Qantas.. Lufthansa.. etc. Luckily with no fatalities as they happened at altitude.. but hey if they happened at 5000 like Lion I’m not so sure they woulda ended well.

Look, I’m not disputing the safety record of both aircraft, they are safe enough. Just pointing out that there is a reason Airbus pilots claim that it makes a great pilot just average. And that flying the 737 makes the job a heck of a lotta fun, and keeps your skills sharp, what with all the old school gadgets up there.
Do you drive a car with a crank on the font?
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Do you drive a car with a crank on the font?
If it’s old school... I drive it!
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aa73, the 737 was your first upgrade here, right? There is something special about that for many pilots. Mine was the F-28 and I doubt many put that on their favorites list, but had a ball.

I liked the 737's when I flew them, I wouldn't commute to avoid it, but for an office the Bus beats it. It can lull you into complacency, if you left it. I get some strange looks when I say that I turn the autothrust off.

One thing about the 737-I've never flown NG or MAX, but the rest seemed light in their feet. I've had a lot of skidding and weathervaning on the 737, but in 15 years on the bus I don't remember any. When I hear that an A/C left the surface, I immediately think 737.

Don't let these guys get you, it's okay to love a FLUFF!😉

I think this discussion comes up every few months...
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Old 11-21-2018, 02:33 PM
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If it’s old school... I drive it!
I’m getting you flying goggles and a scarf for Christmas buddy.
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