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Noob here what's vacation floating?

I'm hearing my fellow MIA 737 ca's floated a bunch. Disappointed.

I didn't float any, FWIW. Even though I'll probably end up with assigned vacation (again), I'll never float. The time away is worth more to me, than any $$ I might make ever would be.

That’s what happens when there is no accountability at the BOD and NO level. In the past they said don’t float, but did themselves. Or bid all weeks last year, then got union leave to touch their vacation week and put it back in bank (same as floating).

APA’s only plan is don’t float and Dan’s rogue negotiating.

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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy (Post 2744511)

Noob here what's vacation floating?

In simple terms, it means that you don’t take your vacation and keep your vacation balance to get paid out at the end of the year, or just keep it in the bank if you want to drop a trip (if you can) and use vacation balance to get credit for said trip.

The union advised all AA pilots to take their vacation in order to “recover/unwind” from their stressful schedules. One can connect the dots on what that means, but it’s pretty clear to everyone, including those who ignored the union.

There’s more to it than that. For each week of floated vacation, the company removes a week of offered vacation. They probably remove those vacation weeks from holidays and the summer.

Keith F’ing Wilson floated 24 days? Unbelievable.

We all knew B👀th was going to float and make his lame excuses for it. Shame on you. I know you’ll try to justify your avarice in your own mind, but deep down you know the truth. You’re not pulling your weight in this union but you’ll enjoy any of the spoils. When you turn 65 you’ll probably still post all your impressive little statistics here because you have nothing else in your life. You act like you’re still on b-scale.

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Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 2744263)

Sad. Very sad. And we wonder why we can’t get an industry leading contract when OUR OWN LINE PILOTS can’t even follow a simple union request to build unity and leverage.

To those who floated.... I don’t know how you can look yourselves in the mirror when your FELLOW UNION MEMBERS are sacrificing LOTS OF $$$ to promote unity and leverage... while you suck it all up at our expense.

Disgusting and shameful. NO excuses.

Agreed. I did not float and the number of captains floating was disturbing. We are going into section six with 15000 independent contractors.

Slice: you are a sad man

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Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 2744345)

Dude. BS.

Your union asked you NOT TO FLOAT.

There is no gray area here. Either you’re a unionist. Or you’re a self serving individualist.

There is no excuse to float when your union has asked you not to, in the interest of creating leverage... especially during Section 6.

The principle in not crossing a picket line is pretty much the same.

Aren’t you full of self righteousness. How does your ego fit in there with that and your Napoleon complex? Perhaps there is a gray area. Maybe, some individuals have a circumstance other than making more money. Can you possibly contemplate that or should I ask who is being the individualist? Did I float? No. But that is merely because I have no vacation to do so. This isn’t because I’m increasing my pay. No, I am blessed with a child who has extended stays in the hospital that are all to frequent and irregular.

So why don’t you take your BS and try to fit it up where that stick is buried, and eat a bag a D’s!

Lastly, names shouldn’t be posted on a public forum as this. This whole thread should be moved to C&R

I’m a relatively new guy so, other than money, can you explain another reason someone would float? If you have a sick kid wouldn’t you want to spend your vacation time with them? I’m a little confused