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Originally Posted by DarinFred (Post 2745096)

Come on Slice. Stop being a vagina and show your face!

He is probably making another screen name as I type this. Is he a senior guy, I really dont remember but thought he was just a few years at AA.

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Originally Posted by AAfng (Post 2745144)

He is probably making another screen name as I type this. Is he a senior guy, I really dont remember but thought he was just a few years at AA.

Think he’s a very senior WB guy

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Originally Posted by AFTrainerGuy (Post 2745179)

Think he’s a very senior WB guy

Oh, thats explains it, he floated like many of those guys

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Originally Posted by Erroneous (Post 2745083)

In the end I am the one who should probably apologize. I did not float either time but I can tell you it does burn me to see folks get lumped into a category without any consideration. Quite simply if you are within 5 years of retirement and floating all your vacation the assumption that it is for purely money might be valid. I have no idea what the latest union emails were about but it did not seem like anything more than working on the mental health of our pilot group in light of what I perceive to be an increased suicde rate. It is almost comical, if not so upsetting, that on a current suicide forum everyone is so understanding and yet on another we are willing, if not asking, to publish names and condem individuals with no understanding. Sorry to be the Debby Downer but something’s shouldn’t be done. Unity amongst this pilot group isn’t not calling out and seperating individuals. If anyone has a problem with a fellow pilot we go to Professional Standards, not the company or airing greviences to the masses. Same thing applies here. If anyone has a problem with how I operate or anyone else then sound off to the union and demand they handle it. Unified front to the company while handling issues internally.

while that may be true, it could be the union's attempt to make sure the no float campaign doesnt get interpreted as some sort of work action...i could be wrong, but unions have been nailed with this in the past and it cost alot of money.

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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2745047)

We were only bidding for round 1. So unless you bid all 3 weeks for one stretch in round 1, you should have 2 weeks left (assuming you’re less than 6 years on property). Our will bid 1 of those for round 2 and one for round 3. Though it’s all done at once.

I gotcha. Just so I understand it correctly; I wanted to bid 2 separate weeks...so in round 1 it awarded my highest preference and then quit. Such that in round 2 it’ll try to award me another week. And so on for each remaining weeks. Sorry I’m a little dumb at VMS stuff.

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Originally Posted by OVBIII (Post 2745483)

...If only there was something like an instruction manual that explained the entire process...

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Originally Posted by UPTme (Post 2745818)

...If only there was something like an instruction manual that explained the entire process...

Don’t be a Richard. I looked through it and I just have missed it.

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Originally Posted by AFTrainerGuy (Post 2745179)

Think he’s a very senior WB guy

He’s not as senior as I thought.

I have flown with Slice. Great guy to fly with. I am disappointed in his continued no float campaign. Stubbornness? Pettiness? Self serving? I am not sure. He will have to live with his actions. I will not be friendly with him when I run in to him. Being snubbed by your peers can cause real angst.

The excuses are priceless. Guys who have been at AA for years and are making bank are saying they NEED to float their vacation for when they take time off later in the year. If those guys finances are so tight that they HAVE TO float then man, they have bigger problems. I am not buying it. Funny how the junior guys, you know the guys not making 1/2 what they are making, can some how take their vacation shows that their excuses are just that - EXCUSES. They are just greedy and they are the same dudes picking up trips at straight time which is why there is very little premium. They are short sighted. Rant over.