redbaronahp

Management seems content giving away NYC flying which just baffles my mind. I get it’s expensive but it’s the largest market in the country and they are just giving it to Delta and JetBlue.

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+15 in staffing in LGA between August and October.

I think their hands are mostly tired. In reality JetBlue is a cheaper operator and will beat on price. Delta is, and will always be, the better business carrier.

If you're a leisure traveler, you're taking the cheaper operator with 32" of legroom and free WiFi and TV.

If you're a business traveler, you're taking Delta because of their network and reliability.

We do well in LHR but my big concern is Brexit. Most of the big banks have already started to move to Paris (Delta Skyteam hub). If/when the LHR business market collapses we will probably end up running a small NB fleet there just to say we do. Sad, I know. Unless they can buy up JetBlue slots on the cheap.

I saw this coming when Delta swapped US DCA slots for a ton of LGA stuff. They are five years ahead of every decision we make.

Also long term Delta moves in BOS and JFK are interesting. They are gunning for jetBlue, and attempting to do the same thing in those hubs as they are in SEA. I like jetBlue personally so I hope they can keep them at bay.

redbaronahp

Delta management is way ahead of DP’s team when it comes to business decisions. The AA product is far inferior to DL and B6. Our management is failing at providing LCC prices and a quality product. It’s a bad mix of crappy service and not cheap fares. Oasis interiors are the worst.

Sandwich Artist

I thought you quit AA for FedEx?

B757200ER

It's because they've chosen PHL in the northeast, and JFK has become redundant. I'm not saying I agree, but they're obviously going to grow PHL and shrink NYC flying.

AA has gone thru similar downsizing, such as giving away SJC hub-and-spoke to Reno, then buying Reno, then dismantling the hub in SJC. Other airlines, like SWA, moved in.

mainlineAF

It wasn’t just decided to “give up” NYC. Management has said this multiple times. There’s 3 main reasons why

-us/dl slot swap in 2011/12 timeframe left the combined AA at a large disadvantage
-NYC is hyper competitive and slot controlled. DL and JB have a much bigger presence and there’s no way to increase connecting traffic
-PHL being an hour away and already a bigger European gateway is the final straw as to why NYC is now strictly an O and D/ business market

Cheddar

That doesn’t account for the growth... I understand the consolidation aspect, but the PHX jets are going away as soon as the Neo’s arrive there. As far as the JFK iron, I thought PHL would absorb that flying and test out other soft European markets.

We are just doing LIM and hub turns DFW. The hub turns can easily be done with the 321 as the 757 is doing most of those.

Maybe we don’t have enough 321’s?



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AAfng

He probably hates it at Fedex and is questioning his decision (but is stuck now at FedEx) so he comes on here to make himself feel better by digging on American.

jcountry

I don’t understand why we have so little movement.

Other airlines have far fewer retirements and 10x the upgrades.

It’s a real headscratcher.....

PRS Guitars

Nothing to see here, they just want to reduce training in the summer. Pretty sure other airlines do this too. Expect large fall through spring bids.