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I think that, even with the same people running the LECs and MECs, there would be a difference due to the different type of structure, governance and accountability that exists with ALPA that does not exist at APA.
Plus these same leaders would now have much better and instant access to the resources and assets ALPA provides that APA doesn’t have. All of that would make a difference in my opinion . In the interim, I agree... let’s see what this next APA generation accomplishes. |
Originally Posted by Arado 234
(Post 2830756)
To be fair, most of the ALPA critics (including myself) are from regional carriers. I am beginning to wonder whether there is a significant difference between legacy and regional ALPA.
As long as ALPA continues to allow the whipsaw of the regionals it represents for the gain of the major carriers they won’t have my support. I am however willing to entertain solutions to fix that problem. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Dilly dilly!
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Originally Posted by Regionalsuck
(Post 2830791)
How is it not true?
I am on a preassigned 10am RAP for the month. On prior trip they fly me until 9:45am on my day off. I lost the night home in my own bed, missed my Dr appointment on a scheduled day off (get nothing for losing my day off, no extra pay or return day off), of course I don't live in a trailer in the airport parking lot so it takes a while to get home (so lose until around noon on day OFF), then start at 10am RAP again anyway like normal. Well, you are the only one avail so we can schedule reserves until noon on days off.. WTF? It's ridiculous they can do this. They do it all the time now, especially with redeye finishes at 6am.. Long call gets a benefit with the shift, but for a short call it doesn't help. |
We need ALPA. It’s not perfect but it has to be better than APA. The flying into day off with no repercussions, constant reassignment, no double time, archaic representation, safety in numbers, etc. far outweighs the negatives. What ALPA carrier is envious of our contract? Yes there are some nice things. Sit time pay, IMAX if you can figure out how to play that game. Seriously we need to get the headquarters out of DFW. One of our former APA negotiators is now a negotiator for the company. Please stop the nonsense.
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Originally Posted by Varks
(Post 2830976)
We need ALPA. It’s not perfect but it has to be better than APA. The flying into day off with no repercussions, constant reassignment, no double time, archaic representation, safety in numbers, etc. far outweighs the negatives. What ALPA carrier is envious of our contract? Yes there are some nice things. Sit time pay, IMAX if you can figure out how to play that game. Seriously we need to get the headquarters out of DFW. One of our former APA negotiators is now a negotiator for the company. Please stop the nonsense.
So... what you’re saying is we need a better contract and better union leadership? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
I agree with AA73, we need ALPA. I’m not swayed by former regional ALPA pilot’s arguments. It’s a not applicable here.
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At my regional ALPA sucked because they only cared about the mainlines so we don't want it at our mainlin... Wait nevermind.
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Originally Posted by Andrew_VT
(Post 2831041)
At my regional ALPA sucked because they only cared about the mainlines so we don't want it at our mainlin... Wait nevermind.
We don’t need second class pilots any more than we need second class people. If ALPA really cared about their dues paying regional pilots (they don’t) they would help them unite under contracts where they can’t be whipsawed against each other. Pay would go up and the likes of United, Delta and American would hard pressed to pay those rates, bringing more flying back in house. The only group ALPA’s two tier system helps is management. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
So that's why APA is better?
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